That's awesome. One day I would love to live in a situation where I could point myself in a direction, any direction, that isn't crammed with people. I've come to the realization that being a motorcyclist has made me a very angry car driver. My 11 mile commute takes 18 minutes on the bike, and this morning about 45 minutes in the car. Had I never started riding, I'd accept 45 minutes as normal, and follow along with the other lemmings. But any time I hit any modicum of traffic in a car, I rage. I seethe with fury. When I'm by myself, I scream. When my wife is in the car, I contain myself, but I'll make an aggressive move every now and then without thinking about it. On the bike, I can get around traffic, but my mind is fully consumed with situational awareness. Blissful concentration doesn't leave room for anything else.
I hear ya Gin60. One approach that may help is ensure your cage is "not fast", so there is no incentive to take chances. Second, ensure to install your favourite music to soothe the beast within. Radio may help, but beware talk show topics may inflame the brain ... which is not preferred. I suppose it boils down to the acceptance of the cage versus bike domain - which is why you are in anguish.
(12-06-2019, 03:01 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: [ -> ]That's awesome. One day I would love to live in a situation where I could point myself in a direction, any direction, that isn't crammed with people. I've come to the realization that being a motorcyclist has made me a very angry car driver. My 11 mile commute takes 18 minutes on the bike, and this morning about 45 minutes in the car. Had I never started riding, I'd accept 45 minutes as normal, and follow along with the other lemmings. But any time I hit any modicum of traffic in a car, I rage. I seethe with fury. When I'm by myself, I scream. When my wife is in the car, I contain myself, but I'll make an aggressive move every now and then without thinking about it. On the bike, I can get around traffic, but my mind is fully consumed with situational awareness. Blissful concentration doesn't leave room for anything else.
I am lucky, I can reach quiet 80KPH 50MPH rural escape roads within 5 minutes of my suburban home. My large, quiet, scenic, twisty and hilly motorcycle playground is about an hour away.
After I retired, it took me a year with the Penny's help to rid myself of my aggressive rush hour habits. Fifteen years out now she complains I drive too slow.

An obvious testament to Forum members, however, it is comforting to remind ourselves that country driving/riding does soothe the soul.
The best I can do is go for a sunrise ride on a Sunday morning before all of humanity wakes up. Some nice classical music in my earbuds, that helps the soul quite a bit.
(12-06-2019, 04:31 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: [ -> ]The best I can do is go for a sunrise ride on a Sunday morning before all of humanity wakes up. Some nice classical music in my earbuds, that helps the soul quite a bit.
Heh, to be honest, I didn't realize SoCal went to sleep.
Ah right, you did say humanity.

Penny and I visited friends in San Jose about 40 years ago. After seeing the tourist sights in San Francisco we decided to go to the casino at Lake Tahoe. We set out very early in the morning and could not believe the jam packed highways heading into San Francisco. Just miles and miles of bumper to bumper cars. It must be horrible now.
(12-06-2019, 04:49 AM)Nortoon_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Penny and I visited friends in San Jose about 40 years ago. After seeing the tourist sights in San Francisco we decided to go to the casino at Lake Tahoe. We set out very early in the morning and could not believe the jam packed highways heading into San Francisco. Just miles and miles of bumper to bumper cars. It must be horrible now.
(*sigh*)
No really, ... (*sigh*)
"You call some place paradise, kiss it goodbye."
(12-06-2019, 03:37 AM)Nortoon_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (12-06-2019, 03:01 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: [ -> ]That's awesome. One day I would love to live in a situation where I could point myself in a direction, any direction, that isn't crammed with people. I've come to the realization that being a motorcyclist has made me a very angry car driver. My 11 mile commute takes 18 minutes on the bike, and this morning about 45 minutes in the car. Had I never started riding, I'd accept 45 minutes as normal, and follow along with the other lemmings. But any time I hit any modicum of traffic in a car, I rage. I seethe with fury. When I'm by myself, I scream. When my wife is in the car, I contain myself, but I'll make an aggressive move every now and then without thinking about it. On the bike, I can get around traffic, but my mind is fully consumed with situational awareness. Blissful concentration doesn't leave room for anything else.
I am lucky, I can reach quiet 80KPH 50MPH rural escape roads within 5 minutes of my suburban home. My large, quiet, scenic, twisty and hilly motorcycle playground is about an hour away.
After I retired, it took me a year with the Penny's help to rid myself of my aggressive rush hour habits. Fifteen years out now she complains I drive too slow. 
It would be better for your quiet neighbourhood to not to advertise its beauty...you would get loud chapters from the GTA next season. And I did not mean PB (aka VD), you know...lol

(12-06-2019, 05:29 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (12-06-2019, 03:37 AM)Nortoon_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (12-06-2019, 03:01 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: [ -> ]That's awesome. One day I would love to live in a situation where I could point myself in a direction, any direction, that isn't crammed with people. I've come to the realization that being a motorcyclist has made me a very angry car driver. My 11 mile commute takes 18 minutes on the bike, and this morning about 45 minutes in the car. Had I never started riding, I'd accept 45 minutes as normal, and follow along with the other lemmings. But any time I hit any modicum of traffic in a car, I rage. I seethe with fury. When I'm by myself, I scream. When my wife is in the car, I contain myself, but I'll make an aggressive move every now and then without thinking about it. On the bike, I can get around traffic, but my mind is fully consumed with situational awareness. Blissful concentration doesn't leave room for anything else.
I am lucky, I can reach quiet 80KPH 50MPH rural escape roads within 5 minutes of my suburban home. My large, quiet, scenic, twisty and hilly motorcycle playground is about an hour away.
After I retired, it took me a year with the Penny's help to rid myself of my aggressive rush hour habits. Fifteen years out now she complains I drive too slow. 
It would be better for your quiet neighbourhood to not to advertise its beauty...you would get loud chapters from the GTA next season. And I did not mean PB (aka VD), you know...lol

It would be better for your quiet neighbourhood to not to advertise its beauty...you would get loud chapters from the GTA next season. And I did not mean PB (aka VD), you know...lol
DV (aka PB) would probably be much interested in the [url=https://diefenbunker.ca/en/]Diefenbunker, which is probably not far off your ride Nortoon.