No clutch shifting

[Haggard Rider_imp]

I do both clutchless up and down shifts, not all the time though. Find clutchless upshifts, especially when driving 'progressively', better than the ham-fisted efforts I sometimes make and at lower speeds they can be very smooth indeed.

[BestStandard_imp]

^^+1^^ l learned about clutchless shifts while working summers at a Honda shop in the early 70s... always thought it was a normal thing that everyone does.

[emptysea]

I clutchless shift at least 2-3 times per ride.... not on purpose, though.

[cj599_imp]

i do all the time grew up on dirtbikes so seems naturel to me

[the Ferret]

and this is why I don't buy used bikes.

[cj599_imp]

and this is why I don't buy used bikes.

what do you find wrong with clutch less if done right its just as safe as using most honda trans are devolved in a racing atmosphere you think in moto gp they granny shift?

[Houtman_imp]

"if done right " is the key !

[the Ferret]

I think they put clutches on motorcycles that are meant to be used when shifting. I dont trust that everyone knows exactly what they are doing on every clutch less shift and transmissions are easily damaged, worn dogs, chipped teeth. I'd just prefer not to buy a bike that may have been treated that way.

I think in MotoGp they use transmissions called seamless gearboxes that are specifically designed for clutch less shifting at full throttle.

There are some ( but not all) street motorcycles which have factory quick shifters on which you can upshift but not down shift without a clutch, and some are designed to upshift and downshift without the clutch, but the CB 1100 is neither of those.

[cj599_imp]

Moto gp in the 1980s use the same style trans as we have, a test drive tells you if their is a issue with the dawgs by the way in goes into gear if it feels unsure theirs probably a issue
I also have experience driving over the road trucks so thats just what i do

[BestStandard_imp]

https://www.motorcycle.com/ask-mo-anythi...fting.html

An old Honda trained mechanic taught me the ways of clutchless shifting long long ago in a town not that far away. Very wise and strong with the force was he. RELTS were standard equipment back then... so maybe they are required.