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Posted by: Sorg67_imp - 06-22-2018, 12:32 AM - Forum: General Discussion
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It has been forty years since I have ridden an inline four. I remember my old 550 Four as being very smooth. But I was 18 at the time and had very limited experience.
I am now 58, have more experience and am more sensitive to comfort. The dealer that has the 2013 with 12,000 miles on it does not allow test rides. I have not asked the other dealers.
My Harley is pretty smooth by Harley softail standards. At cruising speed it is very smooth and quite. It does not handle bumps well. But it is very smooth and comfortable cruising smooth roads. I like the engine vibe. It is a soothing low frequency vibe.
My Versys has much better suspension. Handles bumps much better. And is probably technically smoother than the Harley, especially over 70 mph. Versys is pretty smooth up to 80 mph. However, I rarely go that fast. I do not go on highways much. And when I do, I am usually in the high 60's, low 70's.
What vibration my Versys does have is a higher frequency, more buzzy vibe. Less pleasing than the Harley vibe.
I have read some places that inline fours are smooth as silk and in other places that they are buzzy. I have particularly read that the BMW inline fours are buzzy.
From all I have read, the CB1100 is a smooth inline four. So I am thinking that I do not need to worry too much if I am not able to test ride one before I buy.
Any thoughts on this? What is everybody's experience about dealers allowing test rides? We have a CB500X. That is almost creepy smooth under 60 mph, but it gets a bit buzzy when you start pushing 70 and above.
Obviously that is a parallel twin, much smaller and a completely different animal. I am guessing the CB1100 is barely breaking a sweat at 75 mph.
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| Power Commander / Autotune trims |
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Posted by: PowerDubs_imp - 06-22-2018, 12:18 AM - Forum: Mechanical & Technical
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Ok, so I've been riding around for a few days with these installed.
There are 2 base files on the Dynojet site-
2013 stock bike.
2014 w/ slip on.
Just so everyone is on the same page, I'll rehash my understanding of the basics-
#1- the factory ecu tune on the 2013 and 2014 are different. There is a mention of it on the Honda website that discusses the technical build story of the CB1100. They mention the difference when they talk about the change to 6 gears. They do NOT give detail on which maps change- fuel, spark, throttle response (opening of tb blades)...etc
#2- the desired 'tune' of both the files on the dynojet site are 100% the same as far as the a/f target table. The fuel trim table results are way different but the goal they are trying to achieve was simply carried over.
The target table is pretty basic- they threw 13.2 on the whole thing, pretty much all RPM and throttle position and then just leaned out a few cells in what they would consider the cruise rpm and light throttle position.
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So my bike is a '14, I started with the '14 file on the site. I've rode around and applied trims several times.
While the exact numbers in the fuel table are naturally different given my addition of the arrow header and modified velocity stacks, the overall look is the same- adding and removing fuel in basically the same map areas. A lot of the cells are negative.
If you look at the applied fuel on the dynotjet '13 file' you will see it looks a lot different than the 14 and mine- it adds fuel everywhere, but remember the target a/f table is 100% the same.
SOOO- I am going to now load the '13' file onto my bike and see what happens. In theory since the target is the same, the autotune should start pulling a lot of fuel out and after I trim several times I should end up right back where I am now on the '14 file.
Anyone have any thoughts for sake of discussion?
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Part 2-
Once I have settled on my selection of hardware parts puzzle- snorkels, velocity stacks, cams, juggle them around for best results and best fuel mapping- I intend on hooking up the speed sensor to the autotune and letting it map fueling for each gear individually. I don't think I have seen anyone take advantage of that feature yet?
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| let's argue about obsolete old motorcycles |
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Posted by: misterprofessionality - 06-21-2018, 08:35 AM - Forum: Other Bikes
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Once my CB11 is paid off ( a while yet, i know), my goal is to buy a second, older, used bike that i don't have to rely on, and thus can use to learn more about motorcycle repair, modification, and maintenance in a consequence free environment. with my CB11, i wouldn't dare experiment with it mechanically. But with a secondary old bike, if i just write the whole thing off as an expense, then i could have the opportunity to learn a lot.
That said, I have a certain set of criteria and desires for a secondary "fun" bike. Right now I'm most interested in an old inline 6 cylinder. of course, the Benelli is out, because where am i gonna get one? it's also the worst one. that leaves japanese models:
The CBX 1000
The Z1300
since all of you folks are old gurus, let's hear what you think on which of these two bikes is a better buy: go!
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| ABS light stays on at start-up |
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Posted by: apex1_imp - 06-21-2018, 02:56 AM - Forum: Mechanical & Technical
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The ABS light on my 2017 is coming on when I start the bike and stays on until I start to ride, at which point it goes off. Is this normal? I have not had the bike long but I don’t believe it was doing this when brand new.
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| I don't understand |
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Posted by: paulw_imp - 06-21-2018, 02:05 AM - Forum: General Discussion
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The dominant modification to these bikes is to try and invoke the early 70s CB750. To me looking at my 2013 bike it is much closer to the late 70s early 80s CB750F. DOHC engine, tank that is closer to the 80s as opposed to the 70s and wheels that invoke the original comstar ones.. I wish there was more available for that transformation.
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| Mods |
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Posted by: KiowaEagle_imp - 06-20-2018, 09:20 AM - Forum: Accessories/Modifications
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I've had my '14 about a month now. Close to 1000 miles and I've done my first oil change (I wish my cars were that easy). And I've done all the cheap mods I can think of. Grip Puppies, rlets and of course ZRXman's beautiful knurled oil cap. Next I'd like to go for a higher seat and an OEM rack (and hopefully getting the two to work together). But here's my problem. Shelling out all that money for the bike just a month ago how do I justify these more expensive mods? I'm having trouble justifying it to myself much less my lady. But man, once you start it's not easy to stop....
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