peterbaron
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Good for you!! 
Cold Weather Riding
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GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
My [primal] understanding is silk underwear works best when they are slid off slowly and sensually, especially with the help of another - or several - if you are so lucky. There is no shortage of heat, among a few things.Charlie Bravo_imp said:
Charlie Bravo_imp
Road warrior
My [primal] understanding is silk underwear works best when they are slid off slowly and sensually, especially with the help of another - or several - if you are so lucky. There is no shortage of heat, among a few things.GoldOxide_imp said:
And then there's that, but this is the wrong forum for that!
That sounds great. Might want to wear something over them, though.Nachodaddy_imp said:
I thought something was a little odd!
pdedse_imp said:
I ordered the above and they arrived the other day. Some photos:
The heating grips wrap around your mc grips and velco together.
The wiring instructions are minimal
If not legible, says "the red wire is connected to the positive output wire of the electric door look (ACC) and the black wire is connected to any negative electrode on the motorcycle" .... Positive output wire of the electric door lock? What?!
The fuse and wiring ends.
I learned about this product while on a Suzuki DR650 forum, so different bike. I asked there about connections, and if one could wire into a battery tender. Someone suggested solder/heatshrink or positap an [url=https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BL2TTVNN?linkCode=ogi&th=1&tag=sofferscom1-20]SAE connector like these:
[url=https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BL2TTVNN?linkCode=ogi&th=1&tag=sofferscom1-20]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BL2TTVNN?linkCode=ogi&th=1&tag=sofferscom1-20
And then others expressed concern about amps / watts "discrepancies" between battery tender and heated grips 5amp fuse. Electronics being somewhat of a black hole for me, I figured I'd ask here as well, mainly for the CB1100.
Other info: the heated grips have 3 temp settings, and the power draw is:
Hight Temperature(Switch Red light) 25w
Medium Temperature(Blue Light) 20W
Low Temperature(Green Light)15W
So questions. 1) w/out doing anything to the wiring (using the spade connectors), can I simply connect directly to battery terminals? Will there be a constant draw on the battery if I do? There is an on/off button/switch that's supposed to be fixed on the handlebars for easy temp control access.
2) what I'd rather do is add the SAE connectors to the existing wires of the heating unit. a) that would allow me to use the same grips on different bikes b) by disconnecting at the battery tender, would eliminate any draw on the battery.
Last night I wired them directly to the battery terminals just to test them out, and the mid temp setting was nice and warm in two minutes. Max temp was pretty hot.
I have grip puppies on the CB and my W800. These thicken the grip and the velcro wrap-around heating element for this product isn't quite enough for it to velcro together. But they would have enough reach for stock grips. I'll have to secure them, maybe with rubber bands wrapped around them.
Any feedback appreciated.
Whoops
Been there
Gone in 60
Road warrior
I broke down and recommissioned "The Weber", my inauspicious name for my Givi V40 box. It looks like a mid-sized barbecue on the back of my bike, doesn't it. Not flattering, but what box is. I've been using my E36, a smaller, less obtrusive box for the daily commute, which does not have the capacity for a helmet.
However, for winter early morning and evening commutes and the after-work errands and meetups with Mrs. or friends, leaving a helmet locked to the handlebars means coming back to a cold lid, damp with dew. Plus, I'm carrying an extra pair of thick gloves, neck gaiters and other keep-warm bits. The V40 is the smallest Monokey box that can secure a helmet, and carry the extra stuff. Not pretty, but functional.
However, for winter early morning and evening commutes and the after-work errands and meetups with Mrs. or friends, leaving a helmet locked to the handlebars means coming back to a cold lid, damp with dew. Plus, I'm carrying an extra pair of thick gloves, neck gaiters and other keep-warm bits. The V40 is the smallest Monokey box that can secure a helmet, and carry the extra stuff. Not pretty, but functional.
The "Weber"! Haha...It does have that "pizza-delivery / pool-cleaner-guy" look that I see frequently in other countries. : ) But it's highly functional, can be locked, and keeps your helmet dry. Sometimes function must win out over form. An alternative would be a soft tail bag mounted to the seat, as opposed to the rear rack--they look low profile, but these are generally not lockable. I use my soft tail bag on the CB's seat, but I mainly use it to pick up groceries on the way home from work so I don't leave things of value inside the bag while it's parked for long.Gone in 60_imp said:
EDIT...wait...what DO you use for BBQ?
Gone in 60
Road warrior
Yeah, not gonna leave a helmet or anything else in an unlocked bag where I ride, and since all of my bikes have Givi mount plates, it's just too handy not to use a big black brick. Sort of ironic, as a motorcycle soft luggage company is next door to my office.
And, my altar to meat cookery is a Weber Genesis. Anything less... might as well put your meat in a microwave. Word.
Pdedse, on cold mornings and nights, I've toyed with getting grip warmers like you just installed, I do miss them from my last BMW. Maybe someday, but for now, thick gloves do ok... they do have the flaw of making me hit the horn when I cancel my turn signals. Did it just this morning, and got a wave from someone on the sidewalk who must have thought I was saying "Hi, good morning!"
And, my altar to meat cookery is a Weber Genesis. Anything less... might as well put your meat in a microwave. Word.
Pdedse, on cold mornings and nights, I've toyed with getting grip warmers like you just installed, I do miss them from my last BMW. Maybe someday, but for now, thick gloves do ok... they do have the flaw of making me hit the horn when I cancel my turn signals. Did it just this morning, and got a wave from someone on the sidewalk who must have thought I was saying "Hi, good morning!"
I ordered the above and they arrived the other day. Some photos:pdedse_imp said:pdedse_imp said:
I ordered the above and they arrived the other day. Some photos:
The heating grips wrap around your mc grips and velco together.
The wiring instructions are minimal
If not legible, says "the red wire is connected to the positive output wire of the electric door look (ACC) and the black wire is connected to any negative electrode on the motorcycle" .... Positive output wire of the electric door lock? What?!
The fuse and wiring ends.
I learned about this product while on a Suzuki DR650 forum, so different bike. I asked there about connections, and if one could wire into a battery tender. Someone suggested solder/heatshrink or positap an [url=https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BL2TTVNN?linkCode=ogi&th=1&tag=sofferscom1-20]SAE connector like these:
[url=https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BL2TTVNN?linkCode=ogi&th=1&tag=sofferscom1-20]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BL2TTVNN?linkCode=ogi&th=1&tag=sofferscom1-20
And then others expressed concern about amps / watts "discrepancies" between battery tender and heated grips 5amp fuse. Electronics being somewhat of a black hole for me, I figured I'd ask here as well, mainly for the CB1100.
Other info: the heated grips have 3 temp settings, and the power draw is:
Hight Temperature(Switch Red light) 25w
Medium Temperature(Blue Light) 20W
Low Temperature(Green Light)15W
So questions. 1) w/out doing anything to the wiring (using the spade connectors), can I simply connect directly to battery terminals? Will there be a constant draw on the battery if I do? There is an on/off button/switch that's supposed to be fixed on the handlebars for easy temp control access.
2) what I'd rather do is add the SAE connectors to the existing wires of the heating unit. a) that would allow me to use the same grips on different bikes b) by disconnecting at the battery tender, would eliminate any draw on the battery.
Last night I wired them directly to the battery terminals just to test them out, and the mid temp setting was nice and warm in two minutes. Max temp was pretty hot.
I have grip puppies on the CB and my W800. These thicken the grip and the velcro wrap-around heating element for this product isn't quite enough for it to velcro together. But they would have enough reach for stock grips. I'll have to secure them, maybe with rubber bands wrapped around them.
Any feedback appreciated.
The heating grips wrap around your mc grips and velco together.
Sometimes I forget my brother is a long-time mechanic for autos and trains and has done his fair share of electrical work, so I gave him a call, sent him photos of what I wanted to connect, and he seemed to think the following would be fine:
Battery tender pigtail (3amp fuse) -- to SAE connecter with 14 gauge wire -- to heated grips wiring (thinner, 16 gauge wire?) with 5amp fuse would work ok. He cautioned to simply try it out, let it run for 5 mintures and check for wires / connectors for heat.
Connected SAE connector to heated grips wires
Did a loose-fit on the CB1100, started, cycled through the temp controls of low, medium and high. All worked, could feel the grip heat begin to build after a few seconds, maybe a minute, minute plus 30 to get to full temp. Blue (medium) seemed like it would be good, red (high) got pretty hot. Off button did what off buttons do.
Checked all along the wiring, fuses, connectors, and couldn't detect any heat at all. The velcro doesn't quite reach around as I have extra girth with the Grip Puppies, but I can secure with thin zip ties.
Now I'll figure out the routing and where to attach the on/off/temp control switch. I went this route adding the SAE connector so I could plug into the pigtail instead of at battery for two reasons 1) so i could transfer from bike to bike 2) to eliminate any possible draw on the battery by disconnecting from the battery tender pigtail. But the units only cost $26 so--if this works ok--I'm thinking of buying a couple more for the W800 and DR650. Looking forward to some dry days, but forecast is for snow and ice and mid 20s for highs the next few days. I can wait till high 30s/low 40s return.
peterbaron
Road warrior
NO winter riding this year, snow almost every day and daily temp around -10*C/14F.
Today at night -24*C/-12F....brrrrrr
I know, our Ferret is a winter champion!
Today at night -24*C/-12F....brrrrrr
I know, our Ferret is a winter champion!
Gone in 60
Road warrior
This post was a good reminder - I just ordered the grip warmers Pdedse referenced a while back. I wired 12v to the cockpit area on Superbird with the intention of adding warmers for our "cold mornings".
Gone in 60 said:
I hope they work for you! I would think that they will take the edge off for your California riding just fine. That's what they do for me in the 45-50 degree weather and I use the blue (middle of 3) settings. My hands will get hot and I'll have to turn it down to green. Dec / Jan temps are usually 32-40 and I use the hottest, red setting. And they help, but they don't keep my hands toasty warm, they just make riding more pleasant, and I don't have numb hands after a 1-2 hour ride. This last week, at 32-40 degrees, but with cold strong winds the wind chill has been below freezing, around 22-25. This is when they lose their overall effectiveness. They still make an hour ride more comfortable, but the cold will eventually win out if I ride more than an hour in such conditions. Still, for around $30, not a bad way to go. This is my 3rd winter with them and I haven't noticed any loss of heat.
peterbaron said:NO winter riding this year, snow almost every day and daily temp around -10*C/14F.
Today at night -24*C/-12F....brrrrrr
I know, our Ferret is a winter champion!
Ugh, I don't miss those extreme lows!
We usually get some snow in Gresham, Oregon, but a big NADA this winter, not even close really. It still could, but it's made for more than usual riding days and I've been able to ride to work the last 2 weeks. Our "east winds" coming out of the Columbia Gorge can be challenging. I stay in the forests where the wind doesn't bother so much.
the Ferret
Road warrior
Lowest so far this year for me has been 7f above, but we might get down to zero next Tuesday. If the roads are clear, I'll ride, but if we get the snow they say we're going to get starting tomorrow, it'll be a week or more before the roads will be fit to ride on. My personal cold riding record is -9f.
Guy from Mn just turned in a -22f in the ST-Owners Cold Ride Contest this morning that I've been playing for a the last 15 years. Coldest I remember seeing turned in was a -25 by a guy from ND maybe 6 or 7 years ago.
Guy from Mn just turned in a -22f in the ST-Owners Cold Ride Contest this morning that I've been playing for a the last 15 years. Coldest I remember seeing turned in was a -25 by a guy from ND maybe 6 or 7 years ago.
MagnaRider
Been there
the Ferret said:
I can attest to the temp in Minnesota today. Its a nice and sunny -26f, with the feels like being a tight nutsack!
Me and my CB will be enjoying a woodstove fire in the shop tonight after work, trying to drink my beer quick enough before it freezes.
the Ferret
Road warrior
It was a balmy 21 degrees and sunny for today's 32-mile ride. Might be the last one for a little while. They are calling for a bunch of snow starting tomorrow morning, and arctic lows with a zero temp Tuesday morning. If we get the snow they are calling for, the roads won't be clear enough to ride for a few days at a minimum, especially our private road. I've been stuck in for a couple weeks after a bad snowstorm before. You can tell they are serious about this winter storm...first time brining the roads in my area this year (those white stripes in the pic below that I took on today's ride). The salt/organic beet juice brine is sprayed on the roads and is supposed to prevent the snow from sticking.
peterbaron
Road warrior
^^ This ^^ looks like nice autumn or an early spring..
For the US, bad winter storm from Texas to Boston with a lot of snow and low temp, possibble some hydro lines down.. :huh:
For the US, bad winter storm from Texas to Boston with a lot of snow and low temp, possibble some hydro lines down.. :huh:
rdprdp01
Administrator
Sad but true. Today, it was 70[sp]0[/sp] Fahrenheit (21[sp]0[/sp] Celsius) at my farm in Texas. Tomorrow, the forecast is 7[sp]0[/sp] Fahrenheit (-14[sp]0[/sp] Celsius). The horses will be wearing "blankeys" tomorrow. :hilarious:
There's a heatwave warning current for bits of SE Australia with promised temperatures in the high 30s to mid 40s.
the Ferret
Road warrior
Day 22 ... they are predicting 8-11" of snow starting at 2:00 PM, so I was on the road at 10 AM .... 31 miles @ 9 degrees and cloudy
We are going to have zero to 8 degree lows and below freezing highs for the next 7 days. Brrrr Unusual for us
We are going to have zero to 8 degree lows and below freezing highs for the next 7 days. Brrrr Unusual for us
Got to feel good that you got a ride in before all the snow arrives. You're having unusual cold and we're having an unusually long dry spell with lots of sunshine. Still nippy at 30-to low 40s, but not crazy cold like you got.
