02-21-2023, 01:04 AM
(02-20-2023, 10:59 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote:(02-20-2023, 10:01 AM)1985CB450_imp Wrote:(02-20-2023, 01:58 AM)m in sc_imp Wrote: the comment about the slipper clutch is laughable, truly. the 1st time i experienced one was on an aprilia SL1000 my ex wife had that had been tuned, and just flat out ripped. it did, absolutely, keep the back wheel from locking up. same on my ktm, ducati, and i added one to my grom when i went bonkers on the 4 stroke motor build and would absolutely lock up the rear wheel on an abrupt decel. It allows you to match rpm coming out of a corner much better. there is no down side to slipper clutch and is absolutely beneficial on certain bikes and riding styles..
as far as the 5 vs 6 speed. I can ride the CB at 2500 in 6th, have done it, and it will accelerate from there 'ok'. . its much easier to do with the power commander than it was, but i never really lug the motor riding. To me, 'lugging' a motor is, if you are at 'x' rpm, and try to accelerate and it just falls on its face.. you are lugging it.
But if you don't like 6th gear.. then just dont use it.
Glad somebody else gets it
What I don’t understand is why would anyone ride in a gear where their 1140cc bike accelerates only “ok”…..
Too many years riding in city traffic for me to put myself in that position when a simple gear change improves your chances to get out of the way quickly
I for one, don't put myself into situations where I have to get out of the way quickly. Also if necessary I could quickly downshift to enhance acceleration if needed. Takes but a fraction of a second.
The CB 1100 suits me and my riding style, even if it's not your riding style. My (2) FZ1s had 125 hp, my ST 1300 125 hp and my FJR 150 hp. I rode them on the same roads at the same speeds in the exact same way as I ride my CB 1100. Never once in 220,000 miles on those 4 bikes combined, did I ever have to get out of the way quickly, nor in the 78,000 miles I have put on my (2) CB 1100s, nor the 24,000 miles I have put on my lowly 58 hp NC 750, which btw accelerates like a turtle on downers lol. ( it has other attributes I like)
On the other hand I dont understand why someone seemingly dependent on instant acceleration would choose an 1140 cc bike that weighs 550 pounds and only has 84 hp, which can be out accelerated by any number of 600 cc bikes out there that weigh 100 pounds less and have more horsepower, not to mention the myriad of 1000 cc bikes currently on the market with less weight and more than 100 horsepower, sometimes way more. Heck, a 40 year old 1983 Honda CB 1100 with 109 hp would be a better choice for someone where instant acceleration was a priority.
Its all a matter of perspective
I for one, don't put myself into situations where I have to get out of the way quickly. Also if necessary I could quickly downshift to enhance acceleration if needed. Takes but a fraction of a second.
The CB 1100 suits me and my riding style, even if it's not your riding style. My (2) FZ1s had 125 hp, my ST 1300 125 hp and my FJR 150 hp. I rode them on the same roads at the same speeds in the exact same way as I ride my CB 1100. Never once in 220,000 miles on those 4 bikes combined, did I ever have to get out of the way quickly, nor in the 78,000 miles I have put on my (2) CB 1100s, nor the 24,000 miles I have put on my lowly 58 hp NC 750, which btw accelerates like a turtle on downers lol. ( it has other attributes I like)
On the other hand I dont understand why someone seemingly dependent on instant acceleration would choose an 1140 cc bike that weighs 550 pounds and only has 84 hp, which can be out accelerated by any number of 600 cc bikes out there that weigh 100 pounds less and have more horsepower, not to mention the myriad of 1000 cc bikes currently on the market with less weight and more than 100 horsepower, sometimes way more. Heck, a 40 year old 1983 Honda CB 1100 with 109 hp would be a better choice for someone where instant acceleration was a priority.
Its all a matter of perspective
The CB will give instant acceleration, you just have to be in the right gear…
(02-20-2023, 12:43 PM)m in sc_imp Wrote: top gear isn't a goal for me, most people ride/drive like it is, which i never understood.(think about it).
Also, it was 23 years before I had a crash, so time and mileage means nothing. Ive never totalled a car, or even wrecked one, (in 36 years of driving) but i still put my seatbelt on, so that logic IMHO is flawed. I've had to dodge cars, and i can do it on 40 hp bikes, and have, many times. I just don't ride them in 6th gear at 45 mph (very often) either. Heck, im usually never out of 4th in town on the CB.. not because i don't want to 'shift more', that's just not where it wants to be.
Exactly my point
If I’m running 80+ mph on my 2013 then I’m looking for 6th gear, otherwise not so much. I bought the bike used dirt cheap and the lack of a 6th gear didn’t really factor in as it was such a good deal.
I probably ride harder than most here as it sees redline every time it leaves the garage so my perspective may be slightly biased as such.
Bottom line, if it’s a good deal buy the bike and don’t be afraid to run it hard