Oil Filter Options

[peterbaron]

Oops, forgot to put the lid back on my gasoline can.

Again, I already diagnosed your problem...:

[Tev62]

I don't know if you guys have seen these, but K&N puts a little nut on the end of their oil filters that makes them very easy to wrench on and off.
I just ordered a case of them.

As mentioned above those are horrible. I cab literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

As mentioned above those are horrible. I cab literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.

If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it.

As mentioned above those are horrible. I can literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.

If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it. As cormanus stated i am the only one that works out their bikes and I did the oil changes myself with the supplies they bought. This was on multiple different kinds of bikes. The nuts were faulty multiple times over the last 10 years or so I've had experiencewith them. I used one of those on my subaru when I first got it and had the same exact problem but luckily I could use a strap wrench to get it off because it isn't in a tight little area between pipes like on our bikes.

And yes I know an oil filter just goes on hand tight by hand because with use it will get tighter on its own..

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

As mentioned above those are horrible. I can literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.

If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it. As cormanus stated i am the only one that works out their bikes and I did the oil changes myself with the supplies they bought. This was on multiple different kinds of bikes. The nuts were faulty multiple times over the last 10 years or so I've had experiencewith them. I used one of those on my subaru when I first got it and had the same exact problem but luckily I could use a strap wrench to get it off because it isn't in a tight little area between pipes like on our bikes.

And yes I know an oil filter just goes on hand tight by hand because with use it will get tighter on its own..

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
So are you saying the filters that required a screwdriver to get off were unrelated to the fact there was a nut on top or that the previous installer had used the nut to overtighten them with a tool? I'm not following your argument here? Or are you just saying you are witnessing these filters leak around the nut and it has nothing to do with being overtightened?

[mvk24_imp]

I don't know if you guys have seen these, but K&N puts a little nut on the end of their oil filters that makes them very easy to wrench on and off.
I just ordered a case of them.

As mentioned above those are horrible. I cab literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

As mentioned above those are horrible. I cab literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.

If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it.

As mentioned above those are horrible. I can literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.

If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it. As cormanus stated i am the only one that works out their bikes and I did the oil changes myself with the supplies they bought. This was on multiple different kinds of bikes. The nuts were faulty multiple times over the last 10 years or so I've had experiencewith them. I used one of those on my subaru when I first got it and had the same exact problem but luckily I could use a strap wrench to get it off because it isn't in a tight little area between pipes like on our bikes.

And yes I know an oil filter just goes on hand tight by hand because with use it will get tighter on its own..

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

As mentioned above those are horrible. I can literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.

If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it. As cormanus stated i am the only one that works out their bikes and I did the oil changes myself with the supplies they bought. This was on multiple different kinds of bikes. The nuts were faulty multiple times over the last 10 years or so I've had experiencewith them. I used one of those on my subaru when I first got it and had the same exact problem but luckily I could use a strap wrench to get it off because it isn't in a tight little area between pipes like on our bikes.

And yes I know an oil filter just goes on hand tight by hand because with use it will get tighter on its own..

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
So are you saying the filters that required a screwdriver to get off were unrelated to the fact there was a nut on top or that the previous installer had used the nut to overtighten them with a tool? I'm not following your argument here? Or are you just saying you are witnessing these filters leak around the nut and it has nothing to do with being overtightened?

As mentioned above those are horrible. I can literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.

If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it. As cormanus stated i am the only one that works out their bikes and I did the oil changes myself with the supplies they bought. This was on multiple different kinds of bikes. The nuts were faulty multiple times over the last 10 years or so I've had experiencewith them. I used one of those on my subaru when I first got it and had the same exact problem but luckily I could use a strap wrench to get it off because it isn't in a tight little area between pipes like on our bikes.

And yes I know an oil filter just goes on hand tight by hand because with use it will get tighter on its own..

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
So are you saying the filters that required a screwdriver to get off were unrelated to the fact there was a nut on top or that the previous installer had used the nut to overtighten them with a tool? I'm not following your argument here? Or are you just saying you are witnessing these filters leak around the nut and it has nothing to do with being overtightened? I'm not arguing Tev you asked and I'm telling you my answer. I personally have installed them by hand many times on more than just the CB. And then when I went to Uninstall them by manner of the Nut they weld on for that purpose. . They strip immediately before the filter even turns.

If you want to use K&N filters it doesn't affect me in anyway. I'm just letting you know as others here have stated that the only filters thus far that have given us any problems whether It be leaks or the Nut stripping were K&Ns.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

[Tev62]

I don't know if you guys have seen these, but K&N puts a little nut on the end of their oil filters that makes them very easy to wrench on and off.
I just ordered a case of them.

As mentioned above those are horrible. I cab literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

As mentioned above those are horrible. I cab literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.

If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it.

As mentioned above those are horrible. I can literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.

If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it. As cormanus stated i am the only one that works out their bikes and I did the oil changes myself with the supplies they bought. This was on multiple different kinds of bikes. The nuts were faulty multiple times over the last 10 years or so I've had experiencewith them. I used one of those on my subaru when I first got it and had the same exact problem but luckily I could use a strap wrench to get it off because it isn't in a tight little area between pipes like on our bikes.

And yes I know an oil filter just goes on hand tight by hand because with use it will get tighter on its own..

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

As mentioned above those are horrible. I can literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.

If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it. As cormanus stated i am the only one that works out their bikes and I did the oil changes myself with the supplies they bought. This was on multiple different kinds of bikes. The nuts were faulty multiple times over the last 10 years or so I've had experiencewith them. I used one of those on my subaru when I first got it and had the same exact problem but luckily I could use a strap wrench to get it off because it isn't in a tight little area between pipes like on our bikes.

And yes I know an oil filter just goes on hand tight by hand because with use it will get tighter on its own..

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
So are you saying the filters that required a screwdriver to get off were unrelated to the fact there was a nut on top or that the previous installer had used the nut to overtighten them with a tool? I'm not following your argument here? Or are you just saying you are witnessing these filters leak around the nut and it has nothing to do with being overtightened?

As mentioned above those are horrible. I can literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.

If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it. As cormanus stated i am the only one that works out their bikes and I did the oil changes myself with the supplies they bought. This was on multiple different kinds of bikes. The nuts were faulty multiple times over the last 10 years or so I've had experiencewith them. I used one of those on my subaru when I first got it and had the same exact problem but luckily I could use a strap wrench to get it off because it isn't in a tight little area between pipes like on our bikes.

And yes I know an oil filter just goes on hand tight by hand because with use it will get tighter on its own..

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
So are you saying the filters that required a screwdriver to get off were unrelated to the fact there was a nut on top or that the previous installer had used the nut to overtighten them with a tool? I'm not following your argument here? Or are you just saying you are witnessing these filters leak around the nut and it has nothing to do with being overtightened? I'm not arguing Tev you asked and I'm telling you my answer. I personally have installed them by hand many times on more than just the CB. And then when I went to Uninstall them by manner of the Nut they weld on for that purpose. . They strip immediately before the filter even turns.

If you want to use K&N filters it doesn't affect me in anyway. I'm just letting you know as others here have stated that the only filters thus far that have given us any problems whether It be leaks or the Nut stripping were K&Ns.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

OK, fair enough, I can't argue with your experience.

[Tev62]

Does anyone take note of Honda's recommendation to change the oil filter only every other change? One of the arguments for doing this is that a filter in its partially used state is actually a better performer at filtering smaller particles than when it is new. You might deduce Honda find minor loss of flow acceptable on this engine? The caveat being you are using a genuine filter and their recommended oil grade. My guess is the answer is a resounding no, for lots of reasons.

[Houtman_imp]

I change my oil once a year and always use a new Honda OEM filter , cost are so little and I ride about 4 to 5 thousand miles a year on my bikes.

[GoldOxide_imp]

I change my oil once a year and always use a new Honda OEM filter , cost are so little and I ride about 4 to 5 thousand miles a year on my bikes.

(+1) once a year.

Secondary oil filters, if available on the Honda machine, every second year.

[Nachodaddy]

For those of us who don't put many miles on our machines, like 1,000 or 2,000 or less a year, how often should we be changing our oil? And fuel, for that matter. I use Sta-bil fuel stabilizer in my 1923 Model T Ford and have considered using it in my motorcycle.

[GoldOxide_imp]

For those of us who don't put many miles on our machines, like 1,000 or 2,000 or less a year, how often should we be changing our oil? And fuel, for that matter. I use Sta-bil fuel stabilizer in my 1923 Model T Ford and have considered using it in my motorcycle.

For me at least, if the bike gets ridden often enough in the winter season, I don't bother with the stabilizer. Never had a problem. Use "brand name" gasoline though, no discount brands. In Canada at least, discount brands have higher than average water content.

[Gone in 60]

Nacho, our fleet of scooters sits in a trailer from early October to early March every year. We use Sta-Bil in them for the off-season, and it works fine.
We do have the advantage of finishing our season in an area where we can buy non-ethanol gas, so we don't have that worry. We pour in the Sta-Bil, let the engine run a bit to get it into the fuel system, and good-to-go. Since these are carbureted, we run the engines with the petcocks off to dry out the carbs as much as possible, but you'd just want to make sure it gets into your injection system.

Regarding the oil change issue, I change at 4000 miles, and if it takes a little more than a year to roll that much mileage on any particular bike, I don't worry about it. I change on mileage, not a time range. Now, if I were going to store a bike for a long period of time, that would be a different story.