So. Does the "one bike does all" holy grail exist? What would your pick be?

[the Ferret]

Holy Crap, it's a 4 wheel drive Goldwing. :rofl:

 

[calamarichris_imp]

Just a reminder ferret to keep it nice, and not judgmental or hurtful. Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean they're all wrong or that you can insult them like that (even as a moderator).

 

[the Ferret]

Lol duly noted Chris, but that's why I put in the rolling on the floor laughing thingy so they knew I was just joking. If Scooby took offense, I apologize, no offense meant. I actually think it looks awesome. The most dirt worthy Super Ten i have ever seen.

 

[Romo1969_imp]

I would think scooby laughed at the comment. Hmmm. Or maybe even took as a complement perhaps


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[Scoobynut_imp]

I certainly did laugh, to the extent that I think I think I might start using that 4 wheel drive Goldwing line...

 

[rboe]

I'm prepping my XR650L to be my OBDA bike. May have to lower it in the future (I can flat foot it now, but she gets top heavy). The CB could be, but she is irking me right now as the rear brake and my boots don't get along; something is out of whack, as I find the right foot riding the rear brake at times. This is warping the rear disc which are very dear to replace. First bike this has happened on me and it is tarnishing the wonderful experience.

But an OBDA is going to be different for each person, depending on what sort of riding they like to do. I like the 650L because she is torquey, cruises at freeway speeds, capable of dirt, simple and handles wonderfully (pushing the limits it could be better but she does fine within my limits) and it fairly light. Even the seat is not too bad.

 

[ride4now_imp]

I'm prepping my XR650L to be my OBDA bike. May have to lower it in the future (I can flat foot it now, but she gets top heavy). The CB could be, but she is irking me right now as the rear brake and my boots don't get along; something is out of whack, as I find the right foot riding the rear brake at times. This is warping the rear disc which are very dear to replace. First bike this has happened on me and it is tarnishing the wonderful experience.

But an OBDA is going to be different for each person, depending on what sort of riding they like to do. I like the 650L because she is torquey, cruises at freeway speeds, capable of dirt, simple and handles wonderfully (pushing the limits it could be better but she does fine within my limits) and it fairly light. Even the seat is not too bad.

Those big adventure singles are great bikes. Sometimes
I wish I would have bought the Honda or Suzuki's 650
instead of the KLR. That radiator is one more thing to
worry about and I'm sure it adds a bit of weight.

 

[Buffalohead_imp]

I wish I had bought the Kawasaki W650 (? - I believe that's the one I remember). I would love to see them import the W800 to the U.S., with FI of course.

 

[calamarichris_imp]

I've got one (apart right now, due to cam bevel gear worn out). They're not a good candidate for this category IMO; too pretty to flog like a race bike or take off-road.
The W650 is the sweetest bike I've ever ridden or owned.

 

[Red Mist_imp]

I've got one (apart right now, due to cam bevel gear worn out). They're not a good candidate for this category IMO; too pretty to flog like a race bike or take off-road.
The W650 is the sweetest bike I've ever ridden or owned.

That is a pretty nice bike. Much, much better, in my view, then the Triumph Bonneville, and I've had both. Lighter, looks more "authentic", and handles more like a period piece but with reliability.

 

[rboe]

A buddy has a W650. Typically my CB is the prettiest bike of the group until his shows up. The W800 would be the bee's knee's.

 

[calamarichris_imp]

Kawasaki got burned on the W650. A bunch of us Americans (not me though) started a letter-writing campaign to trick Kawasaki into importing it in the US. "If you import it, we will come!"
KHI imported it, and they became showroom anchors. When I bought mine (with a nice discount), the salesman unexpectedly hugged me.
And what was Triumph's best-selling model while this was all happening? The Bonneville America (a wannabe Harley.) :-/

We'll never get the W800 because we don't deserve it.

 

[AzBob_imp]

I have heard nothing but good about the vfr 800.

I have heard bad. VTEC bad, comes on hard suddenly like a turbocharger mid-corner. New one is supposed to be better, and a little lighter. I had four of the earlier VF and VFRs and they were great. Once it became an 800 touring bike I crossed it off my list and never owned another Honda V4. It used to be a sport/racebike but morphed into a touring bike.

The KLR crowd might suggest that their bike might be the one. As an
owner, I'd have to disagree. The big single just can't cut it on the hwy.
I've never owned a BMW GS1200 Adventure, but I've read about them,
seen them in movies, and have a friend who owns one. I bet that
bike would be the 'one ' you'd want for the one bike garage.

Agree, have owned a few KLRs. Too anemic to really take on a long ride with any authority in traffic, not bad on a fire road, suspension sucks. F700GS, well, no comparison at all. The 1200 is heavy, very heavy.

Do everything bikes exist. They're just not that exciting. The NT700 and NC700X are good examples. Very capable bikes that are flexible, just no "personality."

Problem with those bikes is they really have low-grade suspension and brakes. Not much in the way of motor either. They are commuter bikes or for entry or near-entry level riders.

One bike that can do it all MUST have excellent suspension and brakes and a good, flexible engine with a broad, usable power band.

Do it all bike, needs 80-120 HP at the rear wheel. Should be between 450-550 pounds, with high-quality, adjustable suspension for preload, compression, and rebound damping at both ends. Riding position should be reasonable. Fuel tank capacity range should be around 175-200 miles to fumes. Some adventure bikes fit the bill (F700/800GS), some naked bikes as well (CB1000, R Nine T, and FZ8 come to mind), some sport-tourers even (VFR800).

The R1200GS weighs 15 lbs. LESS than the CB1100.

I have heard nothing but good about the vfr 800.

I have heard bad. VTEC bad, comes on hard suddenly like a turbocharger mid-corner. New one is supposed to be better, and a little lighter. I had four of the earlier VF and VFRs and they were great. Once it became an 800 touring bike I crossed it off my list and never owned another Honda V4. It used to be a sport/racebike but morphed into a touring bike.

The KLR crowd might suggest that their bike might be the one. As an
owner, I'd have to disagree. The big single just can't cut it on the hwy.
I've never owned a BMW GS1200 Adventure, but I've read about them,
seen them in movies, and have a friend who owns one. I bet that
bike would be the 'one ' you'd want for the one bike garage.

Agree, have owned a few KLRs. Too anemic to really take on a long ride with any authority in traffic, not bad on a fire road, suspension sucks. F700GS, well, no comparison at all. The 1200 is heavy, very heavy.

Do everything bikes exist. They're just not that exciting. The NT700 and NC700X are good examples. Very capable bikes that are flexible, just no "personality."

Problem with those bikes is they really have low-grade suspension and brakes. Not much in the way of motor either. They are commuter bikes or for entry or near-entry level riders.

One bike that can do it all MUST have excellent suspension and brakes and a good, flexible engine with a broad, usable power band.

Do it all bike, needs 80-120 HP at the rear wheel. Should be between 450-550 pounds, with high-quality, adjustable suspension for preload, compression, and rebound damping at both ends. Riding position should be reasonable. Fuel tank capacity range should be around 175-200 miles to fumes. Some adventure bikes fit the bill (F700/800GS), some naked bikes as well (CB1000, R Nine T, and FZ8 come to mind), some sport-tourers even (VFR800).

The R1200GS you commented on meets every one of your criteria (which I agree with, but would expand to include good wind protection, cruise control, and shaft drive). The R1200GS Adventure even more so. It has cruise control, excellent wind protection, heated grips, excellent load carrying capacity, a huge gas tank, and can go way, way off-road. IMO, the R1200GS Adventure is the DEFINITIVE "do everything" bike. Especially in 2014. I am well aware of the "problems" BMW bikes have had over the past few years (most revolving around the new K bike). Just about every one of the issues has been resolved, and the BMW's carry a three-year, unlimited mileage warranty, so you're protected a lot longer than most other brands. Granted, the seat height of the R1200GS is a bit high, so the height-challenged probably would not like this bike all that much, but I know that people barely over 5' tall own them and ride them at the stock height and love them. The Ducati Multistrada is also a contender here, depending on whether you more highly favor being able to go off-road, or go fast (although it has no cruise control, there is an aftermarket solution). As is the Super Tenere (which is now available with cruise control).

Other than the BMW R1200RT (which is more of luxury tourer), no current sport-tourers meet all of your criteria (they all go over your weight restriction by at least 100lbs) (FJR is 637 lbs, Concours 14 is 688, K1600GT is 732). I wouldn't call the VFR800 a sport-tourer (it has to come with panniers to get that designation, in my opinion), however, once you put the panniers on it, it's coming perilously close to the upper limit of your weight restriction (it's 529lbs without bags).

 

[bubblerboy64_imp]

I own a Harley Fat Boy and a Harley Sportster AND a Bonnie America.

ALL of them are nice motorcycles. I do not agree the America is a wantabee Harley. It's nothing like the Harley bikes. It's not even a V twin.

If you would want to call any bike a want to be you would have to at least pick Honda's or Yamaha V twins well before the parallel twin bikes like the America.

I've heard fellows compare the Thunderbird to the Harley Dyna line and I'll agree they might compare in size but beyond that again really not close. The largest Yamaha cruiser (forget the name) might be the closest Harley to a Harley

But what's the point? Ride what you like. They all are some what similar in that they have two wheels and are FUN.

 

[calamarichris_imp]

Congratulations on your collection. I meant no offense, only that the America looks a lot more like a Sportster (or perhaps a mini-Fatboy to my eye) than it does a Bonneville or a standard. I'm just a bitter little man because that bike was a smashing success here while my precious W650 went over about as well as carbonated milk or Rosanne Barr's porn career.

There's no shortage of cruisers, but a sad lack of standards available in this country.

 

[the Ferret]

rosanne barr had a porn career? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

 

[calamarichris_imp]

Different strokes for different folks. (That was kinda my reaction to the Bonneville America, but as long as it's fun...)
No, she didn't AFAIK, although I haven't kept up on the pron industry, so it's still possible.

 

[Romo1969_imp]

Speedmaster was better


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[rboe]

The Fonz rode a Triumph, not a Sportster, just sayin'.

 

[calamarichris_imp]

Hmm... it appears the Fonz rode 'em all.