LongRanger_imp
Road warrior
I don't think anyone is confusing a motorcycle purchase with a financial investment.
Any interest in cams?
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Ulvetanna_imp
Road warrior
Oh boy, that's for sure. I paid $12K OTD for mine, CA prices. Happy to do it. Even happier today. Just ordered a full Race-Tech treatment for the forks today, Gold Valves, springs, seals, bushings, labor. Gonna be great. Bike is not even worth 4 grand. So what? I'm lovin' it.CIP57_imp said:
LongRanger_imp
Road warrior
I expect Ulve's fork upgrade to be completely worthwhile and transformative, at least from what I've read elsewhere. But here's my perspective on owner-performed upgrades: I was shopping for a Monster 620 earlier this year. The newest bikes are now ten years old and most are clapped out. I went to look at one that was advertised as "mint condition." Upon inspection, the owner (or previous owner) had installed mini turn signals and replaced the rear fender with an aftermarket "tail tidy," replaced the stock pipes with some loud CF Italian pipes (one which was poorly installed and drooped slightly), disconnected the O2 sensors and reprogrammed the ECU, added "shorty" levers, added an oil cooler, and cut the top off the air filter cover and installed a K&N air filter (which was neglected). Hardly a stock bike, or in my opinion, hardly in "mint condition." Despite his claim that it "ran strong," I had no desire to buy his Frankenstein creation. I later found another 620, also in "mint condition," but this one was completely stock. No modifications, mutilations, aftermarket accessories, nothing. I knew exactly what I was getting and happily paid up for it. So I agree, I'm not like all buyers, but that first bike likely never sold for the price I paid for the stock one, despite the owner's insistence that his modifications improved it. Perhaps they did for his enjoyment, but probably not to most potential buyers.
Ulvetanna_imp
Road warrior
It's a crap shoot with used bikes. Stock is best, that way you can then modify it as you please. I never touch fueling, ECU, or exhaust except in one case, FZ8, which had need of Guhl's.LongRanger_imp said:
What? You mean I'm gonna lose money on this thing?LongRanger_imp said:
the Ferret
Road warrior
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PowerDubs_imp
Road warrior
Thread starter
Yes, a modified bike means a buyer has to be extra smart and aware of what was done and what it means- but to be fair, a lot of 'stock' bikes and cars might not truly be- people throw the original parts back on them to sell.. no matter what- buyer beware!
When I bought my ZRX1200, I looked at many other ZRX before it- and most were clapped out, over-advertised in attempt for over selling what they really had. My thought is anyone that uses the term mint- don't even bother going to look at it as they don't understand what that means.
That being said, the bike I ended up buying was essentially flawless even though it had '04 silver bodywork on an '01 bike, with a full Yosh pipe and a jet kit and Sargent seat. If you've been doing this long enough, you know what to look at to judge hackjob's, abuse, and even simple wear and tear.
When I bought my ZRX1200, I looked at many other ZRX before it- and most were clapped out, over-advertised in attempt for over selling what they really had. My thought is anyone that uses the term mint- don't even bother going to look at it as they don't understand what that means.
That being said, the bike I ended up buying was essentially flawless even though it had '04 silver bodywork on an '01 bike, with a full Yosh pipe and a jet kit and Sargent seat. If you've been doing this long enough, you know what to look at to judge hackjob's, abuse, and even simple wear and tear.
Tim_in_AZ_imp
Running like a top
How's the project going?
PowerDubs_imp
Road warrior
Thread starter
Shop is doing calculations
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Sam Mac_imp
Running like a top
I dumped $3000 on upgrades into the Harley Night Rod that I used to own. When it was all said and done I lost about $10,000 on it. Lesson learned. Speaking for myself I ride it as it came from the factory, OK I'll spring for a seat but that's about it. 
Ulvetanna_imp
Road warrior
That is a good pun.Sam Mac_imp said:I dumped $3000 on upgrades into the Harley Night Rod that I used to own. When it was all said and done I lost about $10,000 on it. Lesson learned. Speaking for myself I ride it as it came from the factory, OK I'll spring for a seat but that's about it.
SimiPair_imp
First service completed
I'm interested, too.
The stock cam for a '82 CB1100F was good for 108 hp. Might be a good idea to use that timing on a regrind.
The stock cam for a '82 CB1100F was good for 108 hp. Might be a good idea to use that timing on a regrind.
SimiPair_imp
First service completed
Just talked to Faith at Web Cams. She's very tech savvy. They have worked up some preliminary grinds for our bikes. If we can give them TDC and spring parameters they can provide a street grind for more performance. Price is $855.
PowerDubs_imp
Road warrior
Thread starter
SimiPair_imp said:
Funny, Faith is whom I was corresponding with...and I sent her my cams, and haven't heard back from her for a month!!
$855 is insane, and even I won't pay anywhere near that!
I've had custom cams made before, several times, complete new cams, not regrinds, and no, I won't pay $855. Especially not with ME buying the stock cams and paying to ship them to web for them to use for data on my dollar.
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Rebel73_imp
Been there
Watching this thread with interest...
Randy B
Road warrior
I have a contact that works for a cam company and I put out a feeler to see if they are able or willing to do anything for us.
SimiPair_imp
First service completed
Keep us posted.Randy B_imp said:
I believe the quoted price is high because to put the intake timing in phase requires more lobe work.
By the way, the timing for the 1982 CB1100F is INT: 15(BTDC), 35(ABDC), and EX: 40(BBDC), 10(ATDC).
