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Clutch replacement advice
#1
Im getting up there on the Odometer so im thinking about those friction plates and their condition more and more often. As such, ive decided to start the research process to see if its the kind of surface level low risk stuff I can handle.

My cursory research tells me the basic process is to

get a new set of clutch plates and a gasket,

drain the motor oil,

remove the clutch cover,

clean the gasket surface meticulously,

undo the clutch spring bolts evenly,

remove all the plates and keep them in order,

soak the new plates in motor oil for a few hours,

put the new plates on in the same order,

torque the spring bolts on evenly and set them to the correct torque,

put the clutch cover/new gasket back on,

put the new oil in the motor and off you go.

So: has anybody replaced their clutch plates? What mileage?

Any special tools or procedures i should know about? Any anecdotes about parts of the process that gave you trouble?

Reccomendations on where to buy the plates? It looks like the set from EBC is the best option i can find.

Thanks for any input gang.
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#2
Just so ya know, there is no clutch cover gasket. You apply Three Bond 1207B or equiv. to the mating surfaces as shown in the manual and tighten the cover bolts in a chrisscross pattern in 2-3 steps.
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#3
ah. see i've never heard of Three Bond and I would have been deeply confused if i took the cover off and there was no Gasket. This is the kind of stuff i'm looking for. keep it coming.
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#4
My advice- don't worry about the clutch. I can't possibly imagine it wearing out on this bike...ever.
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#5
Just for a reference my cb1100 has 60.000 km. and when i open the oil filler plug and look at the clutch pack the top pressure plate is flush with the little supports from the outer basket when i feel with my pinky finger.

I'm guessing that when the clutch material wears down that would change and be under the outer basket stubs, it may be worth checking how much lower your inner pack cover is worn below the basket stubs, it's an easy check with the oil filler plug removed.

I also use a small torch to have a look inside the opening and can see the plates moving when i operate the clutch handle and the inner pressure plate ends up 2 mm proud of the outer basket stubs.
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#6
(06-09-2022, 09:18 AM)PowerDubs_imp Wrote: My advice- don't worry about the clutch. I can't possibly imagine it wearing out on this bike...ever.



That's interesting. A lot of bikes need clutch help around 30k. many more around 50k (which i'm currently passing). On top of that i'm not exactly er...gentle with my throttle, and the engine brake is my favorite brake. You really think it would just carry on forever?
(06-09-2022, 09:27 AM)max_imp Wrote: Just for a reference my cb1100 has 60.000 km. and when i open the oil filler plug and look at the clutch pack the top pressure plate is flush with the little supports from the outer basket when i feel with my pinky finger.

I'm guessing that when the clutch material wears down that would change and be under the outer basket stubs, it may be worth checking how much lower your inner pack cover is worn below the basket stubs, it's an easy check with the oil filler plug removed.

I also use a small torch to have a look inside the opening and can see the plates moving when i operate the clutch handle and the inner pressure plate ends up 2 mm proud of the outer basket stubs.

Any chance there's someplace i can find a picture of all these components on the net anywhere? I usually try to look it up on Partzilla when people use terminology that goes over my head, but I don't see any of those parts on the diagram for the clutch assembly. You have to remember when you're dealing with me and engine mechanicals it's not too dissimilar from teaching a cat to bake cookies.

https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/honda/...-ac/clutch
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#7
This bike uses the exact same clutch plates that many other Honda bikes use- including many sport bikes with more power and rode harder. It also has a LOT of plates.

Don’t look for problems needlessly. You will waste time, money, effort, and could create other issues.

It’s not like the clutch will just ‘break’- you will know well in advance before it ever truly reaches end of life.


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#8
(06-09-2022, 09:42 AM)PowerDubs_imp Wrote: This bike uses the exact same clutch plates that many other Honda bikes use- including many sport bikes with more power and rode harder. It also has a LOT of plates.

Don’t look for problems needlessly. You will waste time, money, effort, and could create other issues.

It’s not like the clutch will just ‘break’- you will know well in advance before it ever truly reaches end of life.


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^^ +1 ^^
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#9
(06-09-2022, 09:42 AM)PowerDubs_imp Wrote: This bike uses the exact same clutch plates that many other Honda bikes use- including many sport bikes with more power and rode harder. It also has a LOT of plates.

Don’t look for problems needlessly. You will waste time, money, effort, and could create other issues.

It’s not like the clutch will just ‘break’- you will know well in advance before it ever truly reaches end of life.


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I wasn't necessarily looking for problems, just trying to be prepared well in advance for something that could be either complicated or expensive to deal with. I in particular need to be prepared because I don't want my CB to be out of commission and I can't just quickly deal with problems on that level.

I'm interested in that last statement though, I've had a lot of bikes in my life but this is now the one i've had the longest and for the most miles. I've never actually felt a clutch reach the end of its life. What does that feel like when it starts happening?
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#10
Mine has started to grab a bit. When I put the bike in gear with the clutch pulled in, I can feel it wanting to creep forward. When the engine is hot, it is much harder to get the bike to go into neutral.
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