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K&N air filter fitment question
#11
Posted this last May:

For the CB1100, 171 CFM is required at 8,500 RPM.
1140 cc x 8,500 RPM (redline) = 9,690,000 cubic centimeters
Divide that by 2 for a 4 stroke = 4,845,000 cc = 171 cu ft per minute.

A K&N HD-900 is rated 203 CFM. A CV40 carb on a pre-04 Sportster will handle 185 CFM. The 1200 cc motor will draw 131 CFM at 6,200. A 1250 will draw 165 CFM at 7,500 (very high revs for a push rod motor).

K&N claims a flow capability of 498.64 CFM for the HA-1301 CB1100 air filter (source: email from K&N)...but it cannot be anywhere near fully utilized by an 1140 cc motor with a 8,500 RPM redline.

I suspect that the stock Honda filter does not impede flow.

I contacted Hi Flo to ask if they have a CFM rating on their HFA-1932 and if they have a comparison to the stock Honda air filter.

Received this response from Hi Flo:

All our HFA air filters are designed to be functional duplicates of the stock filter they replace. I do not have the individual specs for each filter as we are not selling them as better than OE but as direct replacements.

If the CFM rating for stock Honda 17210-MEJ-981 or HFA-192 exceeds the 171 CFM that the 1140 cc can pull at 8,500 RPM, then there would be little, if any advantage to a K&N.

I had K&N on one Sportster and one Jeep.

The Screamin' Eagle high flow kit, pre-04 came with a K&N, but the major advantage was more space behind the ham can for flow to the filter.

On my second Sportster (1200 Sport), I modified the ham can back plate with a stock filter and the improvement was about the same as the SE with a K&N.

If cleaned and then not sufficiently oiled, the K&N does not filter well. When dirty it filters fine, but flow drops quickly.

K&N reminds me of the oil bath air filter stock on my 1955 Mercury. It was a late model year with a 312, instead of a 292 V8. Very effective filter , but I quickly replaced it with a tall, large diameter cartridge filter.
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#12
Well I had bought a TSR Air Funnel Kit, Air Intake Funnel and K&N Filter HA-1301 for my bike. These parts are sitting in my closet till this winter when I will install them.

So I go and open them up for the first time to see if I have this same issue... I do not? My K&N Filter snaps right onto my TSR Intake Funnel.

So if I was to guess... K&N messed up on the boxing of their items.

I can provide pictures if need be but again I have no issues and my K&N Filter does not look like the one at the beginning of this topic.

I hope this helps.
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#13
Further evidence of quality control issues at K&N??
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#14
I had no issue installing mine. Not really sure what's going on here...

http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1676
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#15
Now that Photobucket pics seem to be working again, it seems clear that the K&N HA-1301 that the OP and I got are substantially different than the one you installed on your CB.
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#16
(09-18-2018, 04:39 PM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: Now that Photobucket pics seem to be working again, it seems clear that the K&N HA-1301 that the OP and I got are substantially different than the one you installed on your CB.

I would have to agree. It looks like if you trim the lip that it should fit.

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#17
I just picked up a k&n HA 1301 and it does not my 2013 airbox. Same iasue as above......I'm not sure what to do with it , maybe try cutting it up, but I don't like the idea of a janky fitment...
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#18
I used one of those filters on my old Honda civic and it gave me nothing, but mass air flow sensor codes. Not sure if it’ll do the same on a motorcycle, but I’m personally not fond of their products.

If you read the cb1100 manual Honda recommends you simply blow your OEM filter with compressed air and call it a day.
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#19
(12-26-2022, 08:01 AM)Wilbury_imp Wrote: I just picked up a k&n HA 1301 and it does not my 2013 airbox. Same iasue as above......I'm not sure what to do with it , maybe try cutting it up, but I don't like the idea of a janky fitment...

Hey, sorry for the late, it appears that they sent me the wrong part. Just let them know (I guess you already did but just in case) and they will send you the right one free of charge.
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#20
"sports" filters are just for spending more money!
I recommend using the original Honda, or alternatively Hiflo
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