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GoldOxide_imp · 03-03-2021, 11:30 AM

I haven't the wiring diagram, but is it one of those "one-in, many out" device drivers? Or "many-in, many out" sort of arrangements?

cj599_imp · 03-03-2021, 11:37 AM

(03-03-2021, 04:27 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote:
(03-03-2021, 04:03 AM)hardylt_imp Wrote:
(03-03-2021, 02:23 AM)cj599_imp Wrote: What are you doin with the stock signals ? Im not sure about the relay question

If history is any indication then I'm probably going to put them in an unlabeled cardboard box in my shop with other random bike parts collecting dust until I die

If history is any indication then I'm probably going to put them in an unlabeled cardboard box in my shop with other random bike parts collecting dust until I die
Been there!

If history is any indication then I'm probably going to put them in an unlabeled cardboard box in my shop with other random bike parts collecting dust until I die
ROFL

Been there!
i just wish i had some turn signals lol

pekingduck · 03-03-2021, 11:46 AM

(03-03-2021, 11:30 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: I haven't the wiring diagram, but is it one of those "one-in, many out" device drivers? Or "many-in, many out" sort of arrangements?

Oh, that's right. Forgot they have made something simple into something difficult. Never mind, that flasher only works for bikes that don't use the same circuit for running lights and turn signals.

hardylt_imp · 03-03-2021, 02:34 PM

(03-03-2021, 11:46 AM)pekingduck_imp Wrote:
(03-03-2021, 11:30 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: I haven't the wiring diagram, but is it one of those "one-in, many out" device drivers? Or "many-in, many out" sort of arrangements?

Oh, that's right. Forgot they have made something simple into something difficult. Never mind, that flasher only works for bikes that don't use the same circuit for running lights and turn signals.

Oh, that's right. Forgot they have made something simple into something difficult. Never mind, that flasher only works for bikes that don't use the same circuit for running lights and turn signals.
Yea. Wish they hadn’t set it up that way. I don’t think my LED’s know what to do with that constant running light voltage either—they flicker a tiny bit at all times. Which is the main reason for this post. Hyperflash I can handle—flickering, no.

They are also the kind of signals that flash in that “progressive” style where it lights up from one side to the other quickly (the Nightrider signals from Oxford). It’s a mess. But I figure they’ll probably be ok with the right relay. When I can find it, that is.

GoldOxide_imp · 03-03-2021, 10:37 PM

Take a video of your LEDs and play it back. The flicker might become more apparent.

hardylt_imp · 03-04-2021, 12:40 AM

(03-03-2021, 10:37 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: Take a video of your LEDs and play it back. The flicker might become more apparent.

https://streamable.com/hsuzkr

Check it out

GoldOxide_imp · 03-04-2021, 01:12 AM

Yeah, behaviour is a bit inconsistent between left and right. That might be an artifact of the electrics. Otherwise, the LEDs are likely PCM modulated, and hence the low flicker. LED modulation appears faster than most people can perceive with their eyes (sans video capture).

hardylt_imp · 03-04-2021, 11:30 AM

(03-04-2021, 01:12 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: Yeah, behaviour is a bit inconsistent between left and right. That might be an artifact of the electrics. Otherwise, the LEDs are likely PCM modulated, and hence the low flicker. LED modulation appears faster than most people can perceive with their eyes (sans video capture).

Interesting. You made me google PCM modulation and learn something. Either way I think running light power is the most likely culprit behind the flicker and abnormal resistor heat. I assume the relay is responsible for sending running light power to front signals? I wish I could just remove the connector pin or whatever wiring is actually making that happen. But I don't know specifically what's doing it.

I think at this point I just have to start trying LED relays. I'll report back if I have any success...

Lord Popgun · 03-04-2021, 11:34 AM

Hardy, yes the relay does the signals and running lights.

Give me a minute and check your PM.

GoldOxide_imp · 03-04-2021, 12:50 PM

(03-04-2021, 11:30 AM)hardylt_imp Wrote:
(03-04-2021, 01:12 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: Yeah, behaviour is a bit inconsistent between left and right. That might be an artifact of the electrics. Otherwise, the LEDs are likely PCM modulated, and hence the low flicker. LED modulation appears faster than most people can perceive with their eyes (sans video capture).

Interesting. You made me google PCM modulation and learn something. Either way I think running light power is the most likely culprit behind the flicker and abnormal resistor heat. I assume the relay is responsible for sending running light power to front signals? I wish I could just remove the connector pin or whatever wiring is actually making that happen. But I don't know specifically what's doing it.

I think at this point I just have to start trying LED relays. I'll report back if I have any success...

Interesting. You made me google PCM modulation and learn something. Either way I think running light power is the most likely culprit behind the flicker and abnormal resistor heat. I assume the relay is responsible for sending running light power to front signals? I wish I could just remove the connector pin or whatever wiring is actually making that happen. But I don't know specifically what's doing it.

I think at this point I just have to start trying LED relays. I'll report back if I have any success...
So you suspect a weak relay hold state?

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