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I tell ya. I usually modify almost every vehicle I own. This bike does stuff so well and the little diff I would really get makes me really love the idea of leaving this one as is. She just seems to work well on her own. I even abandon the idea of a k&n which I've put in every bike I've owned and almost every car. I bought the filter the 1st week and just realized I'd be better off returning it than bothering. Plus it was expensive.

I do like this lil girl. As is. And for me that is extremely rare.


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I didn't like the way it fit, I didn't like the lack of gaskets on either end like the OEM has, and overall, the Honda part simply looks and feels like a better engineered part to me.

So what if the K 'n N flows more air, did I really buy the CB to wring every nit of power I can out of it? Once I really thought about it, I realized no, the CB is about something else all together. Besides, it'll cruise at 90 to 100 mph for hours on end without breathing hard, so WTF more do I need?

K 'n N for sale, cheap. You take my seminar!

So what if the K 'n N flows more air, did I really buy the CB to wring every nit of power I can out of it? Once I really thought about it, I realized no, the CB is about something else all together. Besides, it'll cruise at 90 to 100 mph for hours on end without breathing hard, so WTF more do I need?

K 'n N for sale, cheap. You take my seminar!
The more important question: is the OEM filter flow deficient; not whether or not the KnN flows more? Unless someone has tested the OEM, nobody really knows and these decisions are based fully on beliefs and hope. I doubt that Honda engineers would have designed in an air filter that doesn't meet flow requirements.

K&N always flows more than stock, as a baseline. Quite a lot more as the design is different and much less restrictive. It filters not by simply having pores that are smaller than the smallest destructive dust particle (direct filtration, so to speak), but instead by a process similar to absorption, where the particles are "trapped" after being attracted to the filter media. The actual passages through the K&N filter are quite large but have many twists and turns (on a microscopic level), and combined with the sticky oil, block and trap dust.

A K&N filter can make quite a difference if the fuel map is able to accommodate it. My understanding is that generally, an EFI motorcycle or car is able to easily cope with the new filter within the range of adjustability of its system.

K&N always flows more than stock, as a baseline. Quite a lot more as the design is different and much less restrictive. It filters not by simply having pores that are smaller than the smallest destructive dust particle (direct filtration, so to speak), but instead by a process similar to absorption, where the particles are "trapped" after being attracted to the filter media. The actual passages through the K&N filter are quite large but have many twists and turns (on a microscopic level), and combined with the sticky oil, block and trap dust.

A K&N filter can make quite a difference if the fuel map is able to accommodate it. My understanding is that generally, an EFI motorcycle or car is able to easily cope with the new filter within the range of adjustability of its system.
I think you are missing my point. Unless the OEM filter is restrictive (and this is easy to measure), a KnN won't make ANY difference.
Of course EFI can deal with a free flowing filter; it isn't ANY different than a stock, clean air filter.

I have a diesel pickup and a diesel truck; both have air filter restriction gauges that measure the difference in pressure between the intake and ambient air pressure. When the filter is dirty, the pressure drop increases and you know to replace the filter. I have been using the same filter in the truck for ten years (I don't drive it a whole lot but it is used on dusty roads and farm fields). I wasn't able to trigger the filterminder until I installed a larger turbo and then only at full throttle with the pump turned way up.

I ran the original air filter in my diesel pickup for seven years before the filterminder indicated a replacement was needed. Part of it was soaked in oil.

Modern air filters are not the restriction most believe them to be.

I tell ya. I usually modify almost every vehicle I own. This bike does stuff so well and the little diff I would really get makes me really love the idea of leaving this one as is. She just seems to work well on her own. I even abandon the idea of a k&n which I've put in every bike I've owned and almost every car. I bought the filter the 1st week and just realized I'd be better off returning it than bothering. Plus it was expensive.

I do like this lil girl. As is. And for me that is extremely rare.


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I didn't like the way it fit, I didn't like the lack of gaskets on either end like the OEM has, and overall, the Honda part simply looks and feels like a better engineered part to me.

So what if the K 'n N flows more air, did I really buy the CB to wring every nit of power I can out of it? Once I really thought about it, I realized no, the CB is about something else all together. Besides, it'll cruise at 90 to 100 mph for hours on end without breathing hard, so WTF more do I need?

K 'n N for sale, cheap. You take my seminar!

So what if the K 'n N flows more air, did I really buy the CB to wring every nit of power I can out of it? Once I really thought about it, I realized no, the CB is about something else all together. Besides, it'll cruise at 90 to 100 mph for hours on end without breathing hard, so WTF more do I need?

K 'n N for sale, cheap. You take my seminar!
The more important question: is the OEM filter flow deficient; not whether or not the KnN flows more? Unless someone has tested the OEM, nobody really knows and these decisions are based fully on beliefs and hope. I doubt that Honda engineers would have designed in an air filter that doesn't meet flow requirements.

K&N always flows more than stock, as a baseline. Quite a lot more as the design is different and much less restrictive. It filters not by simply having pores that are smaller than the smallest destructive dust particle (direct filtration, so to speak), but instead by a process similar to absorption, where the particles are "trapped" after being attracted to the filter media. The actual passages through the K&N filter are quite large but have many twists and turns (on a microscopic level), and combined with the sticky oil, block and trap dust.

A K&N filter can make quite a difference if the fuel map is able to accommodate it. My understanding is that generally, an EFI motorcycle or car is able to easily cope with the new filter within the range of adjustability of its system.

K&N always flows more than stock, as a baseline. Quite a lot more as the design is different and much less restrictive.
Check out these results which indicate that KnN is actually fairly close to the OEM: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest2.htm