02-20-2019, 01:00 PM
Hi MMC, i think that if the plates are not smooth or have some buildup ( film ) on them for whatever reason this could be a simple way to check this and my comparison would give some way of knowing if the basket is clear or contaminated .
A friend of mine complained his clutch was "sticking" causing the engine to cut out, the plates appeared to have some drag so i did not confirm the complaint but trusted him and we took the sidecover off and inspected the plates, they were perfect and we put them back and closed the sidecover back on, put some new oil in the bike and tested it, turned out he did not realise the engine cut out with the sidestand out and shifting in first gear, of course it cut out!
This is not applicable to your situation i know but it illustrates that you can be too quick to take things apart before diagnosing exactly which part is faulty if at all.
I found it difficult to extract exactly what happens from your description so i came up with some basic tests to isolate the problem and some things to check.
As it stands i think your complaint is that the bike has difficulty shifting out of gear at a standstill, that could have many causes and has been complained about before.
You sound very capable and i just wanted to give you some measurements to compare with your own situation.
When changing brake fluid i was surprised at how a tiny bit of air can " soften " the brake action, once the last tiny bubbles were expelled it was all back to normal again, hence the measurement of the travel of the clutch plates, sometimes a vacuum type of bleeding brakes is required to suck out the fluid faster than the bubbles can rise to the top and remain in the system.
Our clutch system has such a dead spot just where the flexible hose connects to the solid pipe left forward of the fuel tank, if the hose is not held up to let the air rise to the top it can sit there compressing away preventing the plates to clear and separate completely.
This is the spot i mean;
If the air is not allowed to rise to the reservoir where it can get out by bending the flexible hose up ward and working the clutch lever it can sit there and be pushed back and forth limiting the travel of the clutchplates forever, just one of the possibilities.....
A friend of mine complained his clutch was "sticking" causing the engine to cut out, the plates appeared to have some drag so i did not confirm the complaint but trusted him and we took the sidecover off and inspected the plates, they were perfect and we put them back and closed the sidecover back on, put some new oil in the bike and tested it, turned out he did not realise the engine cut out with the sidestand out and shifting in first gear, of course it cut out!
This is not applicable to your situation i know but it illustrates that you can be too quick to take things apart before diagnosing exactly which part is faulty if at all.
I found it difficult to extract exactly what happens from your description so i came up with some basic tests to isolate the problem and some things to check.
As it stands i think your complaint is that the bike has difficulty shifting out of gear at a standstill, that could have many causes and has been complained about before.
You sound very capable and i just wanted to give you some measurements to compare with your own situation.
When changing brake fluid i was surprised at how a tiny bit of air can " soften " the brake action, once the last tiny bubbles were expelled it was all back to normal again, hence the measurement of the travel of the clutch plates, sometimes a vacuum type of bleeding brakes is required to suck out the fluid faster than the bubbles can rise to the top and remain in the system.
Our clutch system has such a dead spot just where the flexible hose connects to the solid pipe left forward of the fuel tank, if the hose is not held up to let the air rise to the top it can sit there compressing away preventing the plates to clear and separate completely.
This is the spot i mean;
If the air is not allowed to rise to the reservoir where it can get out by bending the flexible hose up ward and working the clutch lever it can sit there and be pushed back and forth limiting the travel of the clutchplates forever, just one of the possibilities.....