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Mandatory Tools for Road Trip (2017 model and later)
#11
(07-20-2020, 03:04 PM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: It's always good to be prepared. A flat rear tire is the most likely failure, and you've got that well covered. The front and rear axles takes a 22mm, with a 27mm on the rear axle nut. I have a spare 27mm from a Triumph Bonneville that, with the extension tube, gives 11" of leverage. Don't forget a 12mm box end wrench or socket for removing the calipers.


Although it's not light, and I can't stuff it under the seat, I've started carrying a small Li-ion battery jumpers in my Aerostich. Also a Battery Tender voltmeter that plugs into the charging socket. Not as good as a multimeter, but frankly, I think it's as reliable electrically and mechanically as my car.
Pekingduck, Yes I do have the 22 & 27 mm tool (like yours) plus the extension tube from my CBX's & CBR600F, however, I did not want to carry excess tools (storage space is at premium). With the 2 modified wrenches (22 & 27) hopefully, I can use to separate the tire from the rim (never put to the test yet but in theory should do the job) therefore, I opted for tools with double duty at the sacrifice of losing the capability of carrying a U-lock like yours which I really like.
Yes, as you mentioned the 12 & 10 mm box end wrench is a must and also a few spare fuses which I forgot to mention.
I also forgot to mention the big 17mm Allen that I use to hold the front axle shaft when tightening the nut.
For the plier's, because of multipurpose capability of the Swiss Army knife I opted for it instead of the regular Honda plier.

Proper Tightening of bolts & nuts on the road.
From the previously included "maintenance" list, if one looks closely, there is a "Degrees" column in which I have included the equivalent torque turn angle in degrees, because my logic tells me that no one will carry a torque wrench on road trips, however, there is a need to get the proper tightening torque. So I did my best to recreate as close as possible to the torque spec required. So far this maintenance list is incomplete but I will do my best to update it.
Note: a list of important tools can be acquired by referring to the tools mentioned in the "maintenance" list.

I also includes a pair of rubber gloves and the heavy duty blue paper towel (again double duty - wrap the wrench to reduce rattling noise and to clean our hands).

Why not carry more than 1 spark plug, the answer is very simple - underseat space is at premium.

The net is there because there is room for it for just in case purposes, nothing specific in mind.

I like your idea of the CO2 inflator instead of carrying an air pump - working on it.

Hope the explanation justify the logic and help other put a kit ready.
Regards
Alain
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#12
Do you think the 17mm Allen is needed since the left side of the axle is pinched in the fork leg? At home, I use the 17mm Allen equivalent, but I don't carry it with me.

As far as breaking the bead on the rim, no hand tools could do that. There are compact bead breakers that off-road guys carry, but they are heavy and bulky. Besides, by changing to tubeless and carrying a plug kit and a compressor, I think you've done as much as you reasonably can.

You've probably eliminated 98% of the probability of need of taking the tire off.

I also carry a spare oil filler cap (in my bag of fuses) and a folding funnel.
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#13
(07-22-2020, 02:59 AM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: Do you think the 17mm Allen is needed since the left side of the axle is pinched in the fork leg? At home, I use the 17mm Allen equivalent, but I don't carry it with me.

As far as breaking the bead on the rim, no hand tools could do that. There are compact bead breakers that off-road guys carry, but they are heavy and bulky. Besides, by changing to tubeless and carrying a plug kit and a compressor, I think you've done as much as you reasonably can.

You've probably eliminated 98% of the probability of need of taking the tire off.

I also carry a spare oil filler cap (in my bag of fuses) and a folding funnel.

Hi Pekingduck, since I have room for it, I included it in there - Yes, you are correct, the 2 pinch bolt should do the job.
As for breaking the tire, I prepared for the worst condition and hope for the best .
For severe puncture (big hole?) I have also included a tire patch that is done from inside the tire.

Can you explain about the filler cap and funnel logic. thanks
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#14
(07-22-2020, 03:09 AM)Alain Lee_imp Wrote:
(07-22-2020, 02:59 AM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: Do you think the 17mm Allen is needed since the left side of the axle is pinched in the fork leg? At home, I use the 17mm Allen equivalent, but I don't carry it with me.

As far as breaking the bead on the rim, no hand tools could do that. There are compact bead breakers that off-road guys carry, but they are heavy and bulky. Besides, by changing to tubeless and carrying a plug kit and a compressor, I think you've done as much as you reasonably can.

You've probably eliminated 98% of the probability of need of taking the tire off.

I also carry a spare oil filler cap (in my bag of fuses) and a folding funnel.

Hi Pekingduck, since I have room for it, I included it in there - Yes, you are correct, the 2 pinch bolt should do the job.
As for breaking the tire, I prepared for the worst condition and hope for the best .
For severe puncture (big hole?) I have also included a tire patch that is done from inside the tire.

Can you explain about the filler cap and funnel logic. thanks

Hi Pekingduck, since I have room for it, I included it in there - Yes, you are correct, the 2 pinch bolt should do the job.
As for breaking the tire, I prepared for the worst condition and hope for the best .
For severe puncture (big hole?) I have also included a tire patch that is done from inside the tire.

Can you explain about the filler cap and funnel logic. thanks
The filler cap is just a spare. I've heard of filler caps going mysteriously missing on parked bikes, and the amount of oil that gets sprayed up by the clutch will make an un-rideable mess quickly. Not likely to ever need it, but cheap insurance. (The BMW GS guys have accessory locking filler caps - you know who you are!).

And the funnel just because it's flat and is stored with the owner's manual.
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#15
Some of you are planning on the road - major overhauling..Tongue
Big Grin
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#16
(07-22-2020, 05:59 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: Some of you are planning on the road - major overhauling..Tongue
Big Grin

Maybe I should bring along some Plastigage - to check my rod bearings. Big Grin
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#17
I carry the honda "tool kit", an adjustable wrench, a tire repair kit, and the toll-free number of my insurance company's roadside assist provider. Oh and a rag or two, mainly to keep the wrench from clanking around.
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#18
(07-22-2020, 05:55 AM)pekingduck_imp Wrote:
(07-22-2020, 03:09 AM)Alain Lee_imp Wrote:
(07-22-2020, 02:59 AM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: Do you think the 17mm Allen is needed since the left side of the axle is pinched in the fork leg? At home, I use the 17mm Allen equivalent, but I don't carry it with me.

As far as breaking the bead on the rim, no hand tools could do that. There are compact bead breakers that off-road guys carry, but they are heavy and bulky. Besides, by changing to tubeless and carrying a plug kit and a compressor, I think you've done as much as you reasonably can.

You've probably eliminated 98% of the probability of need of taking the tire off.

I also carry a spare oil filler cap (in my bag of fuses) and a folding funnel.

Hi Pekingduck, since I have room for it, I included it in there - Yes, you are correct, the 2 pinch bolt should do the job.
As for breaking the tire, I prepared for the worst condition and hope for the best .
For severe puncture (big hole?) I have also included a tire patch that is done from inside the tire.

Can you explain about the filler cap and funnel logic. thanks

Hi Pekingduck, since I have room for it, I included it in there - Yes, you are correct, the 2 pinch bolt should do the job.
As for breaking the tire, I prepared for the worst condition and hope for the best .
For severe puncture (big hole?) I have also included a tire patch that is done from inside the tire.

Can you explain about the filler cap and funnel logic. thanks
The filler cap is just a spare. I've heard of filler caps going mysteriously missing on parked bikes, and the amount of oil that gets sprayed up by the clutch will make an un-rideable mess quickly. Not likely to ever need it, but cheap insurance. (The BMW GS guys have accessory locking filler caps - you know who you are!).

And the funnel just because it's flat and is stored with the owner's manual.

Hi Pekingduck, since I have room for it, I included it in there - Yes, you are correct, the 2 pinch bolt should do the job.
As for breaking the tire, I prepared for the worst condition and hope for the best .
For severe puncture (big hole?) I have also included a tire patch that is done from inside the tire.

Can you explain about the filler cap and funnel logic. thanks
The filler cap is just a spare. I've heard of filler caps going mysteriously missing on parked bikes, and the amount of oil that gets sprayed up by the clutch will make an un-rideable mess quickly. Not likely to ever need it, but cheap insurance. (The BMW GS guys have accessory locking filler caps - you know who you are!).

And the funnel just because it's flat and is stored with the owner's manual.
Thanks Pekingduck, good idea.
Since I still have the original oil filler cap, I'll keep it as part of the mandatory tools kit and remove the 17mm allen.
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#19
Lol to tell you the truth, from memory, I have no idea what's in my under seat tool bag, ( havent had the seat off in a couple of years) but on trips, in my tail pack, I carry a tire repair kit with digital tire gauge, a mini led flashlight, and a baggie with maybe 4 oz of GN4 10w30 in a plastic bottle ( never needed) with a shop towel and a home made cardboard folded triangle funnel.

I'm not that mechanically inclined so I only carry tools to do the stuff I think I can do, which is plug a tire or add some oil if needed. I'm not pulling wheels or spark plugs, etc on the side of the road. Other than that I have a AAA card which can get me a 150 mile tow to either home if close enough, a hotel or a Honda dealer.

Bikes have been pretty reliable since I started touring in 1969, 42 states, 2 provinces of Canada and 5 countries in Europe and (knock on wood) I have never had a bike not complete a trip. My little brothers Moto Guzzi 850 Eldorado quit on us in Georgia one time in 1972 after riding in 6 hours of rain, but drying out the distributor cap got us back on the road again.
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#20
(07-22-2020, 05:59 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: Some of you are planning on the road - major overhauling..Tongue
Big Grin

Hi Peter, have you ever been on the Manitoulin island (across from Tobermory?

I understand it is a stay over trip.

Regards
Alain

BTW, I am also planning to replace the piston rings with the engine running Big Grin
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