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I got the 17/43 installed last night and went for an initial ride. First impressions are good but I will be putting the bike through about 500 miles today and tomorrow and will give a further appraisal at that point.
Initial impressions are good though. Looks like a 43 on the rear is as large as we can go with the stock chain. Was a tight fit to get the 43 on the stock chain.
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(08-19-2017, 07:30 AM)jermo47_imp Wrote: I got the 17/43 installed last night and went for an initial ride. First impressions are good but I will be putting the bike through about 500 miles today and tomorrow and will give a further appraisal at that point.
Initial impressions are good though. Looks like a 43 on the rear is as large as we can go with the stock chain. Was a tight fit to get the 43 on the stock chain. Great, so do you feel a significant change in pull off the line?
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I havent really noticed it being faster per say, only timing the 0-60 and 0-100 times before and after can show a difference in acceleration, but I am no longer having to downshift into first for very slow corners which is waht i was really going for. Also I use 5th and 6th gear more often now as 75 puts me close to 4k in 6th. I did about a 200 mile loop yesterday and an 100 mile ride on saturday. saturday was just freeway riding and felt great cruising. Sunday was all curves and twisties and passing cars left and right and in either 3rd or 4th gear i can twist and go until i chicken out before the next corner. I think 4th will hit the governor limit of 112mph but dancing between the 2 gears was a lot of fun running up and down the twisties.
Overally it feels much better to me. If i make any trips to idaho or somewhere ill be driving at 85-100mph for long periods of time, i may change the 43 in the back to the stock 40, but i get lazy so i probably wont and just live with the purr. the 17 in the front will probably never get replaced until it wears out and then i will get another 17. Id recommend trying it out. the sprockets are relatively cheap.
Also, on the stock chain, i cannot see anyone going higher than 43 in the back. it was a bit interesting getting the chain on there with hte 17 up front and 43 in the back but the stock 18 might still be okay with a 43 on the back on the stock chain but id be super sad to try it out and find out it wont work, which was almost what happened with the 17/43 setup i was running as i was trying to get the chain back on there after torquing everything down lol.
Next step, some broomstick handlebars.
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(08-21-2017, 06:39 AM)jermo47_imp Wrote: I havent really noticed it being faster per say, only timing the 0-60 and 0-100 times before and after can show a difference in acceleration, but I am no longer having to downshift into first for very slow corners which is waht i was really going for. Also I use 5th and 6th gear more often now as 75 puts me close to 4k in 6th. I did about a 200 mile loop yesterday and an 100 mile ride on saturday. saturday was just freeway riding and felt great cruising. Sunday was all curves and twisties and passing cars left and right and in either 3rd or 4th gear i can twist and go until i chicken out before the next corner. I think 4th will hit the governor limit of 112mph but dancing between the 2 gears was a lot of fun running up and down the twisties.
Overally it feels much better to me. If i make any trips to idaho or somewhere ill be driving at 85-100mph for long periods of time, i may change the 43 in the back to the stock 40, but i get lazy so i probably wont and just live with the purr. the 17 in the front will probably never get replaced until it wears out and then i will get another 17. Id recommend trying it out. the sprockets are relatively cheap.
Also, on the stock chain, i cannot see anyone going higher than 43 in the back. it was a bit interesting getting the chain on there with hte 17 up front and 43 in the back but the stock 18 might still be okay with a 43 on the back on the stock chain but id be super sad to try it out and find out it wont work, which was almost what happened with the 17/43 setup i was running as i was trying to get the chain back on there after torquing everything down lol.
Next step, some broomstick handlebars. Thanks for posting! I think I'll try the 17 in the front. Looks easiest and cheapest. I can always add to the rear if I decide I want to go further.
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I am going to necro this thread, but its okay because i started it.
I moved to florida from washington state a little over a year ago and holy crap the drivers here are bad. that doesnt really have any bearing on changing the sprockets but I ordered a 16 tooth for the front to try out the 16/43 setup. liked the 17/43 im pretty confident the 16/43 will only be more enjoyable but will report more once i get it all installed. waiting on tires right now, the original BT45s (or 54s, i cannot remember) made it 17,000 miles. putting on the angel GTs, so once all thats done (hopefully this week) ill pop on the new 16 tooth sprocket and good hoon around a bit.
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that sounds intense. I just swapped to a 17/41 from the original 18/40 setup and even that small change was strongly noticable. 16/45 must be almost snatchy.
also, Kudos for getting that many miles out of the original BT45s. i couldn't get more than 8k out of my rear battalax.
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Wow!!! My OEM front BT 54 was down to the wear bars at 4K. Replaced with same because I like the grip and feedback.
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I enjoyed the factory BTs but the local shop couldnt get them for the prices I was finding online, and if i get the tires from them its only 15 bucks to mount and balance and they could get the angel GTs for similar to what i can get them online so well try out these tires for a while lol.
The 17/43 was never really a wheelie machine because im pretty heavy at 250 lbs on a 5'10" frame and i have clipons on the bike now so most of my weight when taking off from a start is already more forward than neutral. im sure the 16/43 will be picking up the front wheel all the time as its roughly a 6% additional reduction/6% more torque effectively in those low gears. also means that i will hit the rev limiter before the speed limiter in 3rd gear, where as with the 17/43 i hit 110 mph (in mexico of course) at around 8300ish rpms in 3rd. regardless, as my dad always seems to say "you just cant leave anything alone/stock can you? lol".
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(05-20-2019, 03:09 AM)jermo47_imp Wrote: I am going to necro this thread, but its okay because i started it.
I moved to florida from washington state a little over a year ago and holy crap the drivers here are bad. that doesnt really have any bearing on changing the sprockets but I ordered a 16 tooth for the front to try out the 16/43 setup. liked the 17/43 im pretty confident the 16/43 will only be more enjoyable but will report more once i get it all installed. waiting on tires right now, the original BT45s (or 54s, i cannot remember) made it 17,000 miles. putting on the angel GTs, so once all thats done (hopefully this week) ill pop on the new 16 tooth sprocket and good hoon around a bit.
In the 80s when we vacationed in Florida near Fort Lauderdale we found the drivers to be bad.
On the freeway everybody speeded. If you left a space between you and the car in front of you, the cars on either side of you would both try to fill it.
At a gas station I had just finished pumping and got into my car. As there was a car in front of me I waited. The lady behind me laid on the horn. I looked back at her and pointed to the car in front of me. She continued honking. I motioned to her to back up so I could move out. She refused and continued honking until the car in front of me and I left.
Back then if you made a turn off Federal onto Commercial there was a railway track half a block away and a red light just beyond that. There are no warning signals or gates at the tracks. As nobody in southern Florida ever leaves a space in traffic, one day the train hit a fuel truck parked on the tracks. The explosion and fire killed a number of people.
The railway put up signs on the charred posts at the side of the road not to stop on the tracks. Despite the deaths, signs and charred posts people still parked on the tracks.
The opposite of the impatient drivers are the elderly in their huge cars: Cadillacs, Lincolns, etc. On a quiet side street in Deerfield Beach I watched as a little old lady dawdled along and bumped into a little old man as he waited at a stop light. Both got out of their big expensive cars, looked at them, had a pleasant chat, and drove away.
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(05-21-2019, 04:04 AM)Nortoon_imp Wrote: (05-20-2019, 03:09 AM)jermo47_imp Wrote: I am going to necro this thread, but its okay because i started it.
I moved to florida from washington state a little over a year ago and holy crap the drivers here are bad. that doesnt really have any bearing on changing the sprockets but I ordered a 16 tooth for the front to try out the 16/43 setup. liked the 17/43 im pretty confident the 16/43 will only be more enjoyable but will report more once i get it all installed. waiting on tires right now, the original BT45s (or 54s, i cannot remember) made it 17,000 miles. putting on the angel GTs, so once all thats done (hopefully this week) ill pop on the new 16 tooth sprocket and good hoon around a bit.
In the 80s when we vacationed in Florida near Fort Lauderdale we found the drivers to be bad.
On the freeway everybody speeded. If you left a space between you and the car in front of you, the cars on either side of you would both try to fill it.
At a gas station I had just finished pumping and got into my car. As there was a car in front of me I waited. The lady behind me laid on the horn. I looked back at her and pointed to the car in front of me. She continued honking. I motioned to her to back up so I could move out. She refused and continued honking until the car in front of me and I left.
Back then if you made a turn off Federal onto Commercial there was a railway track half a block away and a red light just beyond that. There are no warning signals or gates at the tracks. As nobody in southern Florida ever leaves a space in traffic, one day the train hit a fuel truck parked on the tracks. The explosion and fire killed a number of people.
The railway put up signs on the charred posts at the side of the road not to stop on the tracks. Despite the deaths, signs and charred posts people still parked on the tracks.
The opposite of the impatient drivers are the elderly in their huge cars: Cadillacs, Lincolns, etc. On a quiet side street in Deerfield Beach I watched as a little old lady dawdled along and bumped into a little old man as he waited at a stop light. Both got out of their big expensive cars, looked at them, had a pleasant chat, and drove away.
In the 80s when we vacationed in Florida near Fort Lauderdale we found the drivers to be bad.
On the freeway everybody speeded. If you left a space between you and the car in front of you, the cars on either side of you would both try to fill it.
At a gas station I had just finished pumping and got into my car. As there was a car in front of me I waited. The lady behind me laid on the horn. I looked back at her and pointed to the car in front of me. She continued honking. I motioned to her to back up so I could move out. She refused and continued honking until the car in front of me and I left.
Back then if you made a turn off Federal onto Commercial there was a railway track half a block away and a red light just beyond that. There are no warning signals or gates at the tracks. As nobody in southern Florida ever leaves a space in traffic, one day the train hit a fuel truck parked on the tracks. The explosion and fire killed a number of people.
The railway put up signs on the charred posts at the side of the road not to stop on the tracks. Despite the deaths, signs and charred posts people still parked on the tracks.
The opposite of the impatient drivers are the elderly in their huge cars: Cadillacs, Lincolns, etc. On a quiet side street in Deerfield Beach I watched as a little old lady dawdled along and bumped into a little old man as he waited at a stop light. Both got out of their big expensive cars, looked at them, had a pleasant chat, and drove away.
Yes its essentially exactly as you described it lol. hasnt changed a bit.
I got the 16 tooth sprocket in, just waiting on the tires. I wanted to see if anyone had the torque specs on the output shaft sprocket for a 2014?
I found my original request for torque specs:
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=11355
thanks yall!
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