peterbaron
Road warrior
Hey Chegaman... what you ride????
You can't do that, Panier install
- Thread starter kennyw
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GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
I wonder if it is a Honda CB? 
Bazbro_imp
Road warrior
What are the panniers, kennyw?
They're really nice, slim and fit nicely to the 'bike.
Are they Samurider- or Webike-sourced?
They're really nice, slim and fit nicely to the 'bike.
Are they Samurider- or Webike-sourced?
kennyw
Road warrior
Thread starter
Originally from Samurider but it looks like they are discontinued now. I am selling this set now but I would imagine international shipping from the US would not be cheap.
Lord Popgun
Road warrior
Still on the Samurider site, but says discontinued. For your viewing pleasure: https://www.samurider.com/?p=23476/#itemImage
Bazbro_imp
Road warrior
Thanks, kennyw. I was hoping I could perhaps get a set locally, because they are such a nice design. Too expensive to ship+customs, I guess.kennyw_imp said:
Thanks popgun, my lord...!Lord Popgun_imp said:
Yes, I saw that they were discontinued there - they looked nice and slim on the site, but when you see how nicely they fit kennyw's... Never mind.
Lord Popgun
Road warrior
LOL!!
You still might want to drop Mr. T a note. Never know, Asahi might still have a set or two laying around.
You still might want to drop Mr. T a note. Never know, Asahi might still have a set or two laying around.
Bazbro, would you have to pay duty on second-hand goods?
Bazbro_imp
Road warrior
I'm really not sure. If not, it would be a way round paying duty - get packages opened and the packaging destroyed and the item is then "second-hand hand and not dutiable".Cormanus_imp said:
I'll try to find out...
GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
Sometimes (and it is follow-up drag) duty is charged and they leave it up to the recipient to register a claim if it was unjust.
Bazbro_imp
Road warrior
Duty and VAT IS payable on anything over £18, apparently, irrespective of whether it's secondhand or not.
The sooner we get Free Trade Agreements with Europe (after Brexit), with our Commonwealth countries, and USA, the better. A Japanese deal would be sweet - nice if it came BEFORE I buy all my Whitehouse kit!!
The sooner we get Free Trade Agreements with Europe (after Brexit), with our Commonwealth countries, and USA, the better. A Japanese deal would be sweet - nice if it came BEFORE I buy all my Whitehouse kit!!
GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
Never understood, or rather, agreed to the premise of VAT. Where's the value?
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A value-added tax (VAT) is a consumption tax placed on a product whenever value is added at each stage of the supply chain, from production to the point of sale. The amount of VAT that the user pays is on the cost of the product, less any of the costs of materials used in the product that have already been taxed.
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If a used item is exchanged multiple times, the tracking of VAT seems a little complicated.
For example, if a motorcycle emblem new costs £20 and the VAT is £2 (lets use 10%), the total buyer's cost is £22.
Now the emblem is used for a few years and becomes "used". The owner sells it for the same £20. But - if he remembers (with paperwork?) - the VAT was already paid, which was £2. So that amount is deducted and the new VAT is on the amount of £20 x 10% = £2 minus the previous VAT of £2 = £0. In this particular use case, the buyer shouldn't be paying VAT, eh?
If the seller wanted to make a profit and sell the used emblem for £30, then the new VAT would be on the margin of gross profit. If I understand correctly, in this case the "value" is £30 x 10% = £3 minus previous VAT of £2 = £1. In this case the buyer would pay a total of £31 (30 + 1). Yes? No?
Who tracks the item's transaction history?
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A value-added tax (VAT) is a consumption tax placed on a product whenever value is added at each stage of the supply chain, from production to the point of sale. The amount of VAT that the user pays is on the cost of the product, less any of the costs of materials used in the product that have already been taxed.
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If a used item is exchanged multiple times, the tracking of VAT seems a little complicated.
For example, if a motorcycle emblem new costs £20 and the VAT is £2 (lets use 10%), the total buyer's cost is £22.
Now the emblem is used for a few years and becomes "used". The owner sells it for the same £20. But - if he remembers (with paperwork?) - the VAT was already paid, which was £2. So that amount is deducted and the new VAT is on the amount of £20 x 10% = £2 minus the previous VAT of £2 = £0. In this particular use case, the buyer shouldn't be paying VAT, eh?
If the seller wanted to make a profit and sell the used emblem for £30, then the new VAT would be on the margin of gross profit. If I understand correctly, in this case the "value" is £30 x 10% = £3 minus previous VAT of £2 = £1. In this case the buyer would pay a total of £31 (30 + 1). Yes? No?
Who tracks the item's transaction history?
Bazbro_imp
Road warrior
I started to look into VAT but my head started to spin and I gave up!
It seems it all hinges on whether you are a trader or not. It's very complicated and it's more profitable to spend the time talking about CB1100s instead ...
It seems it all hinges on whether you are a trader or not. It's very complicated and it's more profitable to spend the time talking about CB1100s instead ...
