Houtman_imp
Road warrior
MVK24 , if you put a sign in your bar "free beer tomorrow " they will come every day.
valve adjustment
- Thread starter jimgl3_imp
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Decided im gonna do the valves adjustment on my
- 1981 kz440 LTd first (screw and lock nut)
- Then 1 of my 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Secas second (25mm shim and bucket)
- And then ill check the honda.
Watched a few videos and its easy enough. The hard part will be reading the Valve shim chart.
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- 1981 kz440 LTd first (screw and lock nut)
- Then 1 of my 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Secas second (25mm shim and bucket)
- And then ill check the honda.
Watched a few videos and its easy enough. The hard part will be reading the Valve shim chart.
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Tev62
Road warrior
The shim charts look busy to start with but then when you have a good look they are actually very straightforward. You just mark your valve clearance as measured Vs the shim size already in place and where they intersect on the table is you new shim size or the note to say in range.mvk24_imp said:
Here is me selecting shims from a table for my 1995 Daytona after measuring the gaps and the existing shims.
Luckily I can remove the shims without taking the camshaft off as it is shim over bucket. If you have a box of shims to hand it will save a lot of effort as you can change them as you measure them. In my case I didn't so I had to put the old shim back in and order up the correct shims.
The shim charts look busy to start with but then when you have a good look they are actually very straightforward. You just mark your valve clearance as measured Vs the shim size already in place and where they intersect on the table is you new shim size or the note to say in range.Tev62_imp said:
Here is me selecting shims from a table for my 1995 Daytona after measuring the gaps and the existing shims.
Luckily I can remove the shims without taking the camshaft off as it is shim over bucket. If you have a box of shims to hand it will save a lot of effort as you can change them as you measure them. In my case I didn't so I had to put the old shim back in and order up the correct shims. Thanks you that clears it up for me, great video tutorial.
I was looking at shim kits but they seem to be pretty expensive.
What size shims do we have in the CB?
If we have the same 25mm size as my 2 yamahas then it might be worth ordered a kit.
The XJ forum has a shim pool and I believe its 1 of the moderators. They pitched in for a big kit of shims and whenever needed a member gets the shims they need from him and sends him back the one you didn't need anymore and it keeps the pool going round and round.
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Tev62
Road warrior
I think the CB with shim under bucket will be the smaller size unfortunately. Some dealers used to be nice to customers and do free shim swaps but that practice seems to of faded somewhat. I had mis ordered one when I did mine and I put out an ABP for a shim with a bike group I belong too and ended up with several offers which was great. The shim boxes are pretty expensive as you say, I wasn't prepared to splash out that much for the convenience either but then I did have the time.
Gone in 60
Road warrior
"Some dealers used to be nice to customers and do free shim swaps but that practice seems to of faded somewhat."
Yup. When I did my Bonneville a while back, I called the two local dealers to ask about swapping shims.
One of them answered with "What's a shim?"
Yup. When I did my Bonneville a while back, I called the two local dealers to ask about swapping shims.
One of them answered with "What's a shim?"
GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
That, ... is so sad.Gone in 60_imp said:
PowerDubs_imp
Road warrior
The ZRX forum has a box of shims that travel from user to user...
I bought a kit when I installed my custom cams- but then discovered that the factory Honda shims come in half sizes compared to the kit.
Regardless, even if it didn't- I would have still needed to order shims.. so if I ever adjust again- I will just disassemble, measure, order, reassemble.
Thought I was saving time- and I was just wasting $.
I bought a kit when I installed my custom cams- but then discovered that the factory Honda shims come in half sizes compared to the kit.
Regardless, even if it didn't- I would have still needed to order shims.. so if I ever adjust again- I will just disassemble, measure, order, reassemble.
Thought I was saving time- and I was just wasting $.
Gone in 60
Road warrior
Call me cheap, but....
For those of you who have removed your valve covers for valve inspection, were you able to reuse the gasket without any leakage?
Might actually take a peek at mine since I'm bumping up on 8,000 miles. I dunno, might be good to have one in the box if needed, but...
For those of you who have removed your valve covers for valve inspection, were you able to reuse the gasket without any leakage?
Might actually take a peek at mine since I'm bumping up on 8,000 miles. I dunno, might be good to have one in the box if needed, but...
Gone in 60
Road warrior
Sweet. Thank you sir.
If everything checks out, I can just button it back up. If anything needs adjusting, it will be down while I order shims, so I'd just order a gasket as well.
... or I'll wait till 12k and check it then. Haven't decided yet.
If everything checks out, I can just button it back up. If anything needs adjusting, it will be down while I order shims, so I'd just order a gasket as well.
... or I'll wait till 12k and check it then. Haven't decided yet.
Lord Popgun
Road warrior
One of our members sent me this link for a shim kit. You may not want this one, but it does show the dimensions: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32883204044.html?spm=a2g0s.12269583.0.0.48a64477UPasgi
PowerDubs_imp
Road warrior
cj599_imp said:
The kit I used was Hotcams as well. Don't bother...as I mentioned above the factory Honda shims come in sizes half of what the Hotcam kit has- so they are much more accurate.
By the time I ended up buying what I needed that wasn't in the kit- I spent more time and money than if I just measured and ordered what I needed piece meal.
PowerDubs_imp said:
The kit I used was Hotcams as well. Don't bother...as I mentioned above the factory Honda shims come in sizes half of what the Hotcam kit has- so they are much more accurate.
By the time I ended up buying what I needed that wasn't in the kit- I spent more time and money than if I just measured and ordered what I needed piece meal. Where did you order your shims from?
2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
max
Road warrior
Dubs as a second question; most values seem to be around 2 millimeters, say from 1.80 to 2.20 including "half"sizes as well as used in most honda's as far as i could find out in various forums at the time and bertypower's excellent info on the spreadsheet
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14124&pid=258193#pid258193
, is that your experience as well?
Could be beneficial for other members to know what to order in advance if they wanted to.
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=14124&pid=258193#pid258193
, is that your experience as well?
Could be beneficial for other members to know what to order in advance if they wanted to.
PowerDubs_imp
Road warrior
My sizing is different than anyone else would have since I have different cams.
I just ordered my oddball shims online from a Honda dealer.
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I just ordered my oddball shims online from a Honda dealer.
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bvictory_imp
Running like a top
I used to have a 440 LTD belt drive. Valves were super easy as they are simple tappets. I haven’t worked with the shim over bucket yet but I am confident I can figure it out eventually.mvk24_imp said:
