Spark Plugs

[tod.branko_imp]

It was a 30 seconds sketch. I guess the paper is transparent, not an issue, no top secret stuff there

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

Dang. No clay model coming?

Dang. No clay model coming? Nooooo, I suck at that. Next time I'll just make a video

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

 

[j3gq_imp]

Hi Tod,
you did well, exactly what I was looking for.
My question about connections (fuel pump, etc.) has been serious so. You said access to sparks was easy, just "flip" the tank. And as I do not know about it, have never done it, I wondered what happened to these lines etc ?

Again thanks for the sketch (and the clay model, if that ever happens).
Another thought out of this. Many know sketch-up (Google), will we one day have models of CB parts all online and available (where it's useful), and print our own parts ? Or are we (most of forum members) too old for this ?

 

[tod.branko_imp]

Hi Tod,
you did well, exactly what I was looking for.
My question about connections (fuel pump, etc.) has been serious so. You said access to sparks was easy, just "flip" the tank. And as I do not know about it, have never done it, I wondered what happened to these lines etc ?

Again thanks for the sketch (and the clay model, if that ever happens).
Another thought out of this. Many know sketch-up (Google), will we one day have models of CB parts all online and available (where it's useful), and print our own parts ? Or are we (most of forum members) too old for this ?

I resorted to flipping the tank around because of the breather hose. It was really stuck and I thought I'd damage it if it tried hard. I did however disconnect the fuel line, and it goes down the left hand side of the bike, so come to think of it the direction of rotation wasn't important, I just had a feeling there was something else hanging on the left side. I'll do another experiment with that, the memory is a bit foggy now, I think there was someone there, but also I think I could be imagining it

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

Hi Tod,
you did well, exactly what I was looking for.
My question about connections (fuel pump, etc.) has been serious so. You said access to sparks was easy, just "flip" the tank. And as I do not know about it, have never done it, I wondered what happened to these lines etc ?

Again thanks for the sketch (and the clay model, if that ever happens).
Another thought out of this. Many know sketch-up (Google), will we one day have models of CB parts all online and available (where it's useful), and print our own parts ? Or are we (most of forum members) too old for this ?

I resorted to flipping the tank around because of the breather hose. It was really stuck and I thought I'd damage it if it tried hard. I did however disconnect the fuel line, and it goes down the left hand side of the bike, so come to think of it the direction of rotation wasn't important, I just had a feeling there was something else hanging on the left side. I'll do another experiment with that, the memory is a bit foggy now, I think there was someone there, but also I think I could be imagining it

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

Keep a lookout for that "brain fog" thang.

 

[the Ferret]

y'all know you don't have to move or remove the tank to change the plugs on this bike right?

Front plug

rear plug

 

[pdedse]

y'all know you don't have to move or remove the tank to change the plugs on this bike right?

Front plug

rear plug

This does bring back memories of another thread. Wasn't there a peculiar sized socket or something you had to use for the angle? BTW...move that phone to the right a bit and you have a nice self-portrait!

 

[j3gq_imp]

It's hard to see, Mr Ferret, any chance you could bring us up to speed on this riddle ?

 

[the Ferret]

Motion Pro makes a thin walled 14 mm spark plug socket # 08-0152 that uses either a 13mm box end wrench, a 14 mm box end wrench or a 1/4" drive ratchet. Fits right in there.

https://www.denniskirk.com/motion-pro/14mm-spark-plug-socket-08-0512.p283555.prd/283555.sku

 

[Houtman_imp]

I have this spark plug tool and removing the plugs is very easy using the Motion Pro tool.

 

[pdedse]

For those of you who use the motion pro, do you think this one would work as well? Would there be enough space to get a ratchet head in there?

ARES 11000-14mm Thin Wall Magnetic Swivel Spark Plug Socket - 3/8-Inch Drive 12-Point Spark Plug Socket - Walls 2mm Thinner Than Standard Spark Plug Sockets

 

[Lord Popgun]

I just ordered the Motion Pro socket from Dennis Kirk. Thanks for the link Ferret. The thing is a tad pricey though.

 

[Houtman_imp]

For those of you who use the motion pro, do you think this one would work as well? Would there be enough space to get a ratchet head in there?

ARES 11000-14mm Thin Wall Magnetic Swivel Spark Plug Socket - 3/8-Inch Drive 12-Point Spark Plug Socket - Walls 2mm Thinner Than Standard Spark Plug Sockets

I think that the Motion Pro is better as you can put different wrenches on it to get the spark plug out and in.

 

[apex1_imp]

The Motion Pro socket is over $30 shipped. This is an alternative that should work: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MQF...UTF8&psc=1
I ordered one and will check on the fit when I receive it later this week. If it doesn't work well, returns with Amazon are free and easy.

 

[tod.branko_imp]

Want to report that my fuel consumption dropped since this last service and spark plug change. I was averaging around 37mpg (6.5l/100km) before, while now on the last 3 fill-ups it seems to be up to a very decent 43mpg (5.5l/100km). It's not huge, but I'm guessing it extends my range to around 250-260km. That's not bad for the little 14l tank

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

 

[Cormanus]

My long term average consumption is around 5.3L/100 kms. However, my experience is that it moves around a bit depending on traffic weather, mood and heaven knows what else. My clever mate, noroomtomove, solved the problem of how far one has to go before puttering to a halt with what has become known as his first law of motion and fuel consumption. It's set out in this thread and has stood me in very good stead on a number of occasions since. All it requires to work is the discipline to reset one of the trip meters whenever you fill up.

 

[tod.branko_imp]

My long term average consumption is around 5.3L/100 kms. However, my experience is that it moves around a bit depending on traffic weather, mood and heaven knows what else. My clever mate, noroomtomove, solved the problem of how far one has to go before puttering to a halt with what has become known as his first law of motion and fuel consumption. It's set out in this thread and has stood me in very good stead on a number of occasions since. All it requires to work is the discipline to reset one of the trip meters whenever you fill up.

I guess I'm a little heavier on the throttle, and my highway miles are very often high-revving. And thank you for the thread link, it's a solid pattern to keep one safe. However, as I do indeed reset every time I fill up, and have filled up on purpose at different mileages to compare the results (I fill up daily as I always ride at least 200km) I am confident to say that my E starts flashing quite early, at around 8.5-9l spent. I guess I could apply the same formula adjusted to the leftover fuel and multiply by 5, but to make things easy I have decided that I have a 200km range and plan my routes and fill-ups according to that number

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

Want to report that my fuel consumption dropped since this last service and spark plug change. I was averaging around 37mpg (6.5l/100km) before, while now on the last 3 fill-ups it seems to be up to a very decent 43mpg (5.5l/100km). It's not huge, but I'm guessing it extends my range to around 250-260km. That's not bad for the little 14l tank

'14 CB1100 STD 5 speed

My long term average consumption is around 5.3L/100 kms. However, my experience is that it moves around a bit depending on traffic weather, mood and heaven knows what else. My clever mate, noroomtomove, solved the problem of how far one has to go before puttering to a halt with what has become known as his first law of motion and fuel consumption. It's set out in this thread and has stood me in very good stead on a number of occasions since. All it requires to work is the discipline to reset one of the trip meters whenever you fill up.

I concur with both your averages. 5.2 to 5.5L/100 kms was very consistent and not dainty on the handle.

Deep rural at 20C I could maintain 3.9L/100 and heavy, hot/humid congested, stop 'n' go pure heck summer traffic was about 6.3L/100.

 

[Nachodaddy]

The Motion Pro socket is over $30 shipped. This is an alternative that should work: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MQF...UTF8&psc=1
I ordered one and will check on the fit when I receive it later this week. If it doesn't work well, returns with Amazon are free and easy.

I am ordering this. Thought it might be helpful for some newer folk who never saw this post.

 

[Wisedrum]

My long term average consumption is around 5.3L/100 kms. However, my experience is that it moves around a bit depending on traffic weather, mood and heaven knows what else. My clever mate, noroomtomove, solved the problem of how far one has to go before puttering to a halt with what has become known as his first law of motion and fuel consumption. It's set out in this thread and has stood me in very good stead on a number of occasions since. All it requires to work is the discipline to reset one of the trip meters whenever you fill up.

Mine is 4,6l/100kms with a 2013 5speed CB. I agree with the mentioned factors for fuel consumption. In addition speed has a very large impact on it. Also short riding over short distances with a lot of automatic warm up running of the engine. This will heavily raise fuel consumption to a large degree. In winter much more than in summer.

Btw the second set of spark plugs is working for 36.000km without any problems as the first did. But this time I leave them longer mounted and don't change. The engine still starts and runs fine as with old ones.

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

My long term average consumption is around 5.3L/100 kms. However, my experience is that it moves around a bit depending on traffic weather, mood and heaven knows what else. My clever mate, noroomtomove, solved the problem of how far one has to go before puttering to a halt with what has become known as his first law of motion and fuel consumption. It's set out in this thread and has stood me in very good stead on a number of occasions since. All it requires to work is the discipline to reset one of the trip meters whenever you fill up.

Mine is 4,6l/100kms with a 2013 5speed CB. I agree with the mentioned factors for fuel consumption. In addition speed has a very large impact on it. Also short riding over short distances with a lot of automatic warm up running of the engine. This will heavily raise fuel consumption to a large degree. In winter much more than in summer.

Btw the second set of spark plugs is working for 36.000km without any problems as the first did. But this time I leave them longer mounted and don't change. The engine still starts and runs fine as with old ones.

Mine is 4,6l/100kms with a 2013 5speed CB. I agree with the mentioned factors for fuel consumption. In addition speed has a very large impact on it. Also short riding over short distances with a lot of automatic warm up running of the engine. This will heavily raise fuel consumption to a large degree. In winter much more than in summer.
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I concur in both cases for the '14 CB1100. If extra conservative, 4.6L/100 was achieved (region rural roads and highways). My typical rate was in the range of 5.0 to 5.4L/100 for spirited riding and freeways.