How much hp do you actually use?

[uscgmac_imp]

Yea, I would love to try out that road.

 

[Ghis_imp]

I thought I had all the power that I would ever need in the real world riding, and I still do think that way. But my son let me ride his new V-max the other day, and boy all I can say is what a beast. Massive amounts of torque & horsepower everywhere, never lacking for nothing. When I got back on my bike, in felt aneemic.
Make a note: (never ride a more powerful bike than your own)

Especially a 200hp V-Max. Not that many bikes around with that kind of power. It'll make most everything else feel anemic...
I take mine to the red line everyone once in a while to stretch her out a little, but most of my riding is below 75mph, and usually between 2k-5k rpm. I'll admit riding her once to the max speed. Wow, it does tap out right at 112mph. This is the fastest bike I've ever had, and it is way plenty fast, border line too fast for me. I have to constantly watch the speedo, and I'm always finding myself in need of slowing down rather than the other way around. It's the perfect bike. She is neither a Toyota Camry, or a Ferrari, but for sure a nice Corvette. I'm happy with the Corvette. Anything beyond that would way exceed my riding skills.

 

[uscgmac_imp]

I know that the power provided is enough for most people and some say its the fastest bike they ever owned. But in reality with the speed limiter in place, as far as today's motorcycles measure up, its extreamly slow on the top end and by no means a fast bike at all. Its a great all around bike and will get up to speed quickly and smoothly but if anyone has ridden a modern larger displacement motorcycle it really does not hold its weight up top. You have to reprogram the ECM to get its potential power. People think that that 112 MPH is more than enough which is correct in most cases but for some of us which choose to unleash all it has this bike falls short. I've never owned a bike that has been limited before. This is the slowest bike I've ever owned, even my 600cc bikes from the middle 80s were faster than the CB1100. Some may say the bike wasn't intended for this but neither are most cruisers and they were all faster too. Its just a shame that i have to spend close to 400.00 bucks to get her true power and speed, but she's more than capable.

 

[14CharlieBravo11_imp]

How fast is 2nd gear good for. I've wound it out a few times without hitting the rev limiter and I think the speedo said I was doing 70'ish?

About 80mph.

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About 80mph. How much gas do you have there, looking through your windshield looks like a far way away from any gas station. Looks like the middle of nowhere. Lol.

About 80mph.
How much gas do you have there, looking through your windshield looks like a far way away from any gas station. Looks like the middle of nowhere. Lol.
That's the kind of road to hit triple digits! I heard on some roads in Montana there are no speed limits :banana:

then you run out of gas in the middle of nowhere

About 80mph.
How much gas do you have there, looking through your windshield looks like a far way away from any gas station. Looks like the middle of nowhere. Lol.
That's the kind of road to hit triple digits! I heard on some roads in Montana there are no speed limits :banana:

then you run out of gas in the middle of nowhere At that spot I was 16 miles from the nearest town (with dozens of gas stations).
Back in the '90s we had a "reasonable and prudent" limit which allowed people to make their own decision on what speed was safe for them considering the road conditions, weather, vehicle condition etc. That got tossed out after a few years because so many people either abused it or had no idea what "reasonable and prudent" meant.
I remember once doing 85 in my pickup on the interstate and getting passed by a Mercedes going so fast that I could only tell the make of the car and see the Minnesota plate on it. I figure he was doing 130-140.
They are now wanting to raise the limit from 75mph to 80 on the interstates between cities.
And yeah, I've been to the middle of nowhere many times but never ran out of gas!:celebrate:
As far as hp is concerned, if you want to go fast and feel tons of power and acceleration then get a sport bike. I ride my CB when I just want to thoroughly enjoy the ride. It is an awesome machine for that! When I want a more "spirited" ride, I take my FZ1 out for a spin.
I like my FZ1, but I LOVE my CB1100! Power isn't everything.

 

[the Ferret]

Just for the record Rollie Free's Vincent that ran over 150 mph only had 70 horsepower

 

[Henrik_imp]

One could add that a Moto3 bike gets close to 150 mph with less than 50 hp as well. The thing is, it is all much more complex than just numbers, at least for me. My old Ducati ST2 probably had less power than the CB1100 (I think something like 80hp), but the way it delivered the power was much lower in the revvs and simply gave a feeling of being more powerful.

Top speed has never been my interest. It is all about the feeling, and honestly I don't care at all about the speed limiter on the CB.

 

[uscgmac_imp]

I figured that since the bike was an 1100 that it would hold its own in most catagories. I expected it to be as it is when guys get the ecm reflashed. Was not expecting a speed limiter. I'm totally cool with the bike, just thought it came with a little more. I don't want a sport bike but do want a bike capable on the top end. This bike is more than capable, its just hidden. Guys are reporting around 140mph after the reflash, that's what I'm talking about. Its not for everyone. Yes sport bikes are fast but plenty of riders have other types of bikes which are speed worthy without being a sport bike. Does the BMW 9t or the Motoguzzi Griso or the Triumph Truxton come with speed limiter set at 112.

 

[the Ferret]

I know the FZ-09 does. It's limiter is a little higher I think but it has one. In reality all bikes have a limiter. There are no bikes in the U.S or Europe that will exceed 186 mph because they are electronically limited not to. Even those approaching 200 HP.

I also like that its fairly cheap to have it removed if you don't like it. Guys spend 3 times that for a set of shocks, or twice that for a slip on muffler, or way more for a seat, or fairing, or a set of saddlebags or as much for a power commander.

 

[uscgmac_imp]

Very true, im just being over critical. I love the bike, just nit picking a little. The fz09 was on YouTube doing approx 135 stock so if it has one its set alot higher than ours. I will eventually flash the ecm, contemplating whether I should do it after the warranty expires.

 

[ChipBeck_imp]

Just for the record Rollie Free's Vincent that ran over 150 mph only had 70 horsepower

Mickey,

If you disabled your speed limiter and squeezed into your old high school swim team Speedo, I think you could hit 160 laid out across the seat with your toes pointed! This would certainly be the highlight of the upcoming Rally!!! :banana: :clap: :beerchug:

Chip

 

[Randy B]

Chip....do you HONESTLY want that image burned into your brain? THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!

This has been a public service announcement.

 

[Novice_imp]

Very true, im just being over critical. I love the bike, just nit picking a little. The fz09 was on YouTube doing approx 135 stock so if it has one its set alot higher than ours. I will eventually flash the ecm, contemplating whether I should do it after the warranty expires.

Is it just the fact that there is a limit on it that bothers you or do you have a need to go faster than 112? I ask only in the spirit of this thread, which I started out of curiosity to see how many actually use all that the CB is capable of. Critics lament the fact that it puts out less than 100 hp, but how many riders actually use all that it does. Critics in the MC rags were quick to point out the speed limiter, but how many riders break into triple digits on a regular basis. If the limit was raised to say 150, how many would notice? Maybe more than I think or it could be less, just curious.

 

[uscgmac_imp]

Well I'm not going to lie, I've hit the speed limiter almost every time I've ridden the bike except for the break in. I've always wanted some more. I don't recommend it for anyone else but if you took a pole I would say most people have hit the speed limiter and wanted more. Do I have a need for it, well yes. I don't want my motorcycle limited and I want to go as fast as I want to. I just expect the bike to perform as an 1100 should. We all know the bike is capable for more. Some people won't or can't grab the concept of riding fast, it scares them and they are nervous and may get into trouble. I take trfhat into consideration and when I'm on a long stretch of open road with nobody around i like to goose it and go. If you don't agree than that is absolutely understandable. I'm only speaking about my bad habits, lol.:banana:
I would be comfortable with 130 to 140, that would be all I need, lol

 

[the Ferret]

Just for the record Rollie Free's Vincent that ran over 150 mph only had 70 horsepower

Mickey,

If you disabled your speed limiter and squeezed into your old high school swim team Speedo, I think you could hit 160 laid out across the seat with your toes pointed! This would certainly be the highlight of the upcoming Rally!!! :banana: :clap: :beerchug:

Chip

Mickey,

If you disabled your speed limiter and squeezed into your old high school swim team Speedo, I think you could hit 160 laid out across the seat with your toes pointed! This would certainly be the highlight of the upcoming Rally!!! :banana: :clap: :beerchug:

Chip
:rofl: yea..not happening!

 

[Henrik_imp]

uscgmac, the replies on this thread do not really show that you are correct when saying most people have hit the speed limiter and want more. Personally the roads that I do most of my riding on simply don't allow you to get near the limiter, and I like it fine that way. That said, I really don't understand the purpose of the limiter. There are many production bikes less capable than the CB that do not have a limiter, so why did Honda put it there?

Something to think about which in my opinion has been a lot more annoying was the French regulation limiting all bikes to 100hp! Yep, this has been in place since 1985 and should be removed by next year. Now that is annoying!! I don't necessarily like to go fast, but I do like power and would not in any way want my engine restricted!

 

[redbirds_imp]

If not for this forum I would have no clue a speed limiter existed. In my younger and more foolish days I would have known by experience.

 

[the Ferret]

Henrik, we have surmised that the limiter on the CB1100 is just a continuation of the limit for the Japanese domestic market where all bike incl the 200 hp ones are limited to 180 kmph or 112 mph.

I further imagine Honda knowing the target market for the CB which is about 70 % riders over 46 years old and the nature of the ride the bike was designed for simply figured 112 mph was plenty.

 

[CIP57_imp]

Well I'm not going to lie, I've hit the speed limiter almost every time I've ridden the bike except for the break in. I've always wanted some more. I don't recommend it for anyone else but if you took a pole I would say most people have hit the speed limiter and wanted more. Do I have a need for it, well yes. I don't want my motorcycle limited and I want to go as fast as I want to. I just expect the bike to perform as an 1100 should. We all know the bike is capable for more. Some people won't or can't grab the concept of riding fast, it scares them and they are nervous and may get into trouble. I take trfhat into consideration and when I'm on a long stretch of open road with nobody around i like to goose it and go. If you don't agree than that is absolutely understandable. I'm only speaking about my bad habits, lol.:banana:
I would be comfortable with 130 to 140, that would be all I need, lol


Where can you go over 112 on Long Island??? Southern, Northern State, LIE, there all parking lots LOL , east of exit 60 is pretty open on the LIE but heavily monitored by State Police ( many trips to the Hampton's)

You really get about a extra 13mph unrestricted, after 125 it will take forever to get into the 130's. Its really not much fun over 130 because its such a slow process. The bike does zip to 125

 

[uscgmac_imp]

Well I'm not going to lie, I've hit the speed limiter almost every time I've ridden the bike except for the break in. I've always wanted some more. I don't recommend it for anyone else but if you took a pole I would say most people have hit the speed limiter and wanted more. Do I have a need for it, well yes. I don't want my motorcycle limited and I want to go as fast as I want to. I just expect the bike to perform as an 1100 should. We all know the bike is capable for more. Some people won't or can't grab the concept of riding fast, it scares them and they are nervous and may get into trouble. I take trfhat into consideration and when I'm on a long stretch of open road with nobody around i like to goose it and go. If you don't agree than that is absolutely understandable. I'm only speaking about my bad habits, lol.:banana:
I would be comfortable with 130 to 140, that would be all I need, lol


Where can you go over 112 on Long Island??? Southern, Northern State, LIE, there all parking lots LOL , east of exit 60 is pretty open on the LIE but heavily monitored by State Police ( many trips to the Hampton's)

You really get about a extra 13mph unrestricted, after 125 it will take forever to get into the 130's. Its really not much fun over 130 because its such a slow process. The bike does zip to 125

Plenty of roads, especially the Ocean Pkwy, Sunrise hwy, southern, northern state Pkwy, LIE, Sunken Meadow, William Floyd and on and on. Plus who says you have to stay on Long Island?? Generally with motorcycles you are able to get right up to speed and right back down much quicker than most cars so it makes it fun for quick bursts. Not talking about endless miles over 100mph, just enough for passing multiple semi trucks and some thrill seeking, and when I'm late coming home and the wife's complaining, lol.
I'm not telling anyone to go over 112, and if you want to go 112 its entirely up to you. I'm just saying the bike should have been limited to something a little higher than that and the owner can choose to do what he wants with it. My XR1200 did 135 and my Z1000 about 158 to 160. I figured this bike would do 130. Now with that said even getting to 112 on this bike is a bit of a chore. Have to be in 5th because 6th gear takes forever. This bike gets to 90 quickly then slowly climbs the rest of the way. Now remember I love this bike and I'm just being critical and I know it can be changed. I'm just saying speed and choices should be left to the consumer which is operating it. Lots are saying when I was younger I used to do this and that. Well I'm under 45 and still enjoy some thrills here and there. Maybe 20 yrs from now I'll think different.

 

[CIP57_imp]

Well I'm not going to lie, I've hit the speed limiter almost every time I've ridden the bike except for the break in. I've always wanted some more. I don't recommend it for anyone else but if you took a pole I would say most people have hit the speed limiter and wanted more. Do I have a need for it, well yes. I don't want my motorcycle limited and I want to go as fast as I want to. I just expect the bike to perform as an 1100 should. We all know the bike is capable for more. Some people won't or can't grab the concept of riding fast, it scares them and they are nervous and may get into trouble. I take trfhat into consideration and when I'm on a long stretch of open road with nobody around i like to goose it and go. If you don't agree than that is absolutely understandable. I'm only speaking about my bad habits, lol.:banana:
I would be comfortable with 130 to 140, that would be all I need, lol


Where can you go over 112 on Long Island??? Southern, Northern State, LIE, there all parking lots LOL , east of exit 60 is pretty open on the LIE but heavily monitored by State Police ( many trips to the Hampton's)

You really get about a extra 13mph unrestricted, after 125 it will take forever to get into the 130's. Its really not much fun over 130 because its such a slow process. The bike does zip to 125

Plenty of roads, especially the Ocean Pkwy, Sunrise hwy, southern, northern state Pkwy, LIE, Sunken Meadow, William Floyd and on and on. Plus who says you have to stay on Long Island?? Generally with motorcycles you are able to get right up to speed and right back down much quicker than most cars so it makes it fun for quick bursts. Not talking about endless miles over 100mph, just enough for passing multiple semi trucks and some thrill seeking, and when I'm late coming home and the wife's complaining, lol.
I'm not telling anyone to go over 112, and if you want to go 112 its entirely up to you. I'm just saying the bike should have been limited to something a little higher than that and the owner can choose to do what he wants with it. My XR1200 did 135 and my Z1000 about 158 to 160. I figured this bike would do 130. Now with that said even getting to 112 on this bike is a bit of a chore. Have to be in 5th because 6th gear takes forever. This bike gets to 90 quickly then slowly climbs the rest of the way. Now remember I love this bike and I'm just being critical and I know it can be changed. I'm just saying speed and choices should be left to the consumer which is operating it. Lots are saying when I was younger I used to do this and that. Well I'm under 45 and still enjoy some thrills here and there. Maybe 20 yrs from now I'll think different.

Plenty of roads, especially the Ocean Pkwy, Sunrise hwy, southern, northern state Pkwy, LIE, Sunken Meadow, William Floyd and on and on. Plus who says you have to stay on Long Island?? Generally with motorcycles you are able to get right up to speed and right back down much quicker than most cars so it makes it fun for quick bursts. Not talking about endless miles over 100mph, just enough for passing multiple semi trucks and some thrill seeking, and when I'm late coming home and the wife's complaining, lol.
I'm not telling anyone to go over 112, and if you want to go 112 its entirely up to you. I'm just saying the bike should have been limited to something a little higher than that and the owner can choose to do what he wants with it. My XR1200 did 135 and my Z1000 about 158 to 160. I figured this bike would do 130. Now with that said even getting to 112 on this bike is a bit of a chore. Have to be in 5th because 6th gear takes forever. This bike gets to 90 quickly then slowly climbs the rest of the way. Now remember I love this bike and I'm just being critical and I know it can be changed. I'm just saying speed and choices should be left to the consumer which is operating it. Lots are saying when I was younger I used to do this and that. Well I'm under 45 and still enjoy some thrills here and there. Maybe 20 yrs from now I'll think different.
My final drive was 19/38's 2nd gear topped out at 97mph @ 9000rpm's and 3rd at 123, 4th was a slow process up to 140 (GPS 136) wind and HP the bike is tapped out in 4th
uscgmac, we have a get together at
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keep in eye on the thread.