Front sprocket bolt cant be moved

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i'm honestly strongly tempted. if anybody can do it i know it's you, and I think the janky chain still has enough life in it to make it that far.

edit: gonna have to watch the weather very carefully. It's iffy on Sunday.
 
MP if you are anywhere near MIS- I'd be over there in a heartbeat, not just for this- but to hang out and B.S. or help wrench on other stuff..

No joke- if I lived close to Mark, I'd bring the beer, pizza, and tunes to the garage.
 
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PowerDubs_imp said:
MP if you are anywhere near MIS- I'd be over there in a heartbeat, not just for this- but to hang out and B.S. or help wrench on other stuff..

No joke- if I lived close to Mark, I'd bring the beer, pizza, and tunes to the garage.
I can bring pizza but i have no taste in beer and nobody likes my tunes :rofl:

Scotch and Tom Waits and pizza with Pineapple on it is all youd get.
 
misterprofessionality_imp said:
Razor_imp said:
Just for kicks: set your electric impact to tighten, and give it a couple of seconds, then immediately switch the impact to loosen and see if it budges. Another alternative is to use a hand impact tool. Only downsize is it will put stress on the countershaft bearing. If you’re willing to go this route; HF sells them. Make sure to get the 1/2’ drive set. That way you can use an impact socket. Good luck!

Link to the HF hand impact. These come in handy for other jobs too.
https://www.harborfreight.com/6-bit-impact-screwdriver-set-with-case-64812.html
I do actually already have that, I was using it previouosly to deal with ancient screws that i'm worried about stripping out.

Does that actually have a better chance at working than a power tool?
PowerDubs_imp said:
Watch a few of these videos... and there is a lot to learn. There are reviews of electric stuff- and real world tests and comparisons.

https://www.youtube.com/@TorqueTestChannel/videos

Got a Harbor Freight near you? If not- Amazon or Ebay will work... or you can probably find something used that will do the job on your local Facebook Marketplace or Craig's List..
unfortunately, for the money any new tool will cost me I could just about pay the shop an hour of labor to swap it out for me, which It looks like is exactly what's going to happen. I'd rather do that than risk making it worse with my continued fumbling.


I don't know what a shop charges for an hour by you, but...

Pay a shop once- get one job done.

Buy a tool and learn- never pay a shop again.

And there are plenty of modern tools for less than an hour of shop time that will zip that right off...

 
misterprofessionality_imp said:
PowerDubs_imp said:
MP if you are anywhere near MIS- I'd be over there in a heartbeat, not just for this- but to hang out and B.S. or help wrench on other stuff..

No joke- if I lived close to Mark, I'd bring the beer, pizza, and tunes to the garage.
I can bring pizza but i have no taste in beer and nobody likes my tunes :rofl:

Scotch and Tom Waits and pizza with Pineapple on it is all youd get.


Anyone that doesn’t like beer just hasn’t tried the right beer for their taste.

There is a TREMENDOUS vast variety of flavor profiles. More so than any other food / drink category I’d wager.

Sweet, sour, bitter, fruity, coffee, chocolate, nutty, bourbon, lemon, orange, berry, oats, grass, light, dark, crisp, thick, dry, creamy, and more…. if you give a list of flavor profiles you like…there is a beer for you.


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PowerDubs_imp said:
misterprofessionality_imp said:
PowerDubs_imp said:
MP if you are anywhere near MIS- I'd be over there in a heartbeat, not just for this- but to hang out and B.S. or help wrench on other stuff..

No joke- if I lived close to Mark, I'd bring the beer, pizza, and tunes to the garage.
I can bring pizza but i have no taste in beer and nobody likes my tunes :rofl:

Scotch and Tom Waits and pizza with Pineapple on it is all youd get.


Anyone that doesn’t like beer just hasn’t tried the right beer for their taste.

There is a TREMENDOUS vast variety of flavor profiles. More so than any other food / drink category I’d wager.

Sweet, sour, bitter, fruity, coffee, chocolate, nutty, bourbon, lemon, orange, berry, oats, grass, light, dark, crisp, thick, dry, creamy, and more…. if you give a list of flavor profiles you like…there is a beer for you.


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I have yet to find one that doesnt taste like beer...the tasting like beer part is the problem. Its kinda like coffee. No matter what you put in coffee its gonna still mostly taste like coffee.

Compare that to the warm buttery golden sweet magic flavor that is good scotch and theres just no contest.
 
misterprofessionality_imp said:
PowerDubs_imp said:
misterprofessionality_imp said:
PowerDubs_imp said:
MP if you are anywhere near MIS- I'd be over there in a heartbeat, not just for this- but to hang out and B.S. or help wrench on other stuff..

No joke- if I lived close to Mark, I'd bring the beer, pizza, and tunes to the garage.
I can bring pizza but i have no taste in beer and nobody likes my tunes :rofl:

Scotch and Tom Waits and pizza with Pineapple on it is all youd get.


Anyone that doesn’t like beer just hasn’t tried the right beer for their taste.

There is a TREMENDOUS vast variety of flavor profiles. More so than any other food / drink category I’d wager.

Sweet, sour, bitter, fruity, coffee, chocolate, nutty, bourbon, lemon, orange, berry, oats, grass, light, dark, crisp, thick, dry, creamy, and more…. if you give a list of flavor profiles you like…there is a beer for you.


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I have yet to find one that doesnt taste like beer...the tasting like beer part is the problem. Its kinda like coffee. No matter what you put in coffee its gonna still mostly taste like coffee.

Compare that to the warm buttery golden sweet magic flavor that is good scotch and theres just no contest.

Incorrect...but like people that hold strong their politics or sports, or won't try new foods or listen to different types of music...well, have fun with what you think you like...because you won't know what you are missing...
m in sc_imp said:
FWIW, i have a full fridge in the garage. there 3 beers in it, not for me (for guests) and i never drink in the shop or working on anything, ever. The fridge carries a lot of overflow from my wifes cooking. :)

Went out last night to a bike night, had ONE guinness, thats it. Im def a 1 and done beer guy, but i make it count.

Exact opposite my garage... always new and exciting beers..plenty of them..with good tunes and depending on the weather we often end up at the fire pit later in the night.
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m in sc_imp said:
Oddly, no one i know locally drinks in the garage working on stuff, we wait till after the work is done. Even when we were kids, just didnt happen.
Makes sense to me.

" ... now where did that tappet nut go to? ... "

Even more sense when any sort of body shop painting is involved.

" ... guys, guys, heh, heh, turn off the leaf blower. Don't think your tank clear coat will like that, um, ... "
 
Meanwhile, back at the front sprocket, how is it going, Misterprofessionality? Any progress? We've learned a lot more about how folks deal with alcohol in the garage than we have about how to get that sprocket off. Any luck?
 
Yes, back to work, you slackers! :D

The bolt is a special part number, likely hardened. It's a standard 10mm thread, used only for holding the sprocket on. If you've tried chemicals like Liquid Wrench or PB Blaster or equivalent, you need to apply heat.

Using a propane torch, apply heat directly to the bolt head - you can't access any other portion of the shaft, and the sprocket will just dissapate heat. The heat will dissolve any non-metallic bond between the threads.

I would suggest ordering a new bolt, just in case the threads were compromised. If they were, you should run tap into the countershaft threads.
 
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Nachodaddy_imp said:
Meanwhile, back at the front sprocket, how is it going, Misterprofessionality? Any progress? We've learned a lot more about how folks deal with alcohol in the garage than we have about how to get that sprocket off. Any luck?
Well sir, i did the only thing a smart person with no mechanical skill could do. I dropped it off at the local honda shop today. Ill get it back on tuesday all spic and span.
 
misterprofessionality_imp said:
Nachodaddy_imp said:
Meanwhile, back at the front sprocket, how is it going, Misterprofessionality? Any progress? We've learned a lot more about how folks deal with alcohol in the garage than we have about how to get that sprocket off. Any luck?
Well sir, i did the only thing a smart person with no mechanical skill could do. I dropped it off at the local honda shop today. Ill get it back on tuesday all spic and span.
Well sir, i did the only thing a smart person with no mechanical skill could do. I dropped it off at the local honda shop today. Ill get it back on tuesday all spic and span. You get bonus points for helping local business prosper and grow as well.
Now we can all go out in the garage and have our beverage of choice.
:beerchug:
 
Nachodaddy_imp said:
misterprofessionality_imp said:
Nachodaddy_imp said:
Meanwhile, back at the front sprocket, how is it going, Misterprofessionality? Any progress? We've learned a lot more about how folks deal with alcohol in the garage than we have about how to get that sprocket off. Any luck?
Well sir, i did the only thing a smart person with no mechanical skill could do. I dropped it off at the local honda shop today. Ill get it back on tuesday all spic and span.
Well sir, i did the only thing a smart person with no mechanical skill could do. I dropped it off at the local honda shop today. Ill get it back on tuesday all spic and span. You get bonus points for helping local business prosper and grow as well.
Now we can all go out in the garage and have our beverage of choice.
:beerchug:
Or head inside for it, as the case may be. :beerchug:
 
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Nachodaddy_imp said:
misterprofessionality_imp said:
Nachodaddy_imp said:
Meanwhile, back at the front sprocket, how is it going, Misterprofessionality? Any progress? We've learned a lot more about how folks deal with alcohol in the garage than we have about how to get that sprocket off. Any luck?
Well sir, i did the only thing a smart person with no mechanical skill could do. I dropped it off at the local honda shop today. Ill get it back on tuesday all spic and span.
Well sir, i did the only thing a smart person with no mechanical skill could do. I dropped it off at the local honda shop today. Ill get it back on tuesday all spic and span. You get bonus points for helping local business prosper and grow as well.
Now we can all go out in the garage and have our beverage of choice.
:beerchug:
i don't know about local business....all the honda shops in my town are owned by a dealership conglomerate.
 
misterprofessionality_imp said:
Theyll do whats needed. They always have. Theyll gouge me for every penny but theyll do it.
A good shop is worth every penny, and if you’re not sure what to do can save you many pennies in parts you never had to buy (after you messed it up yourself). A bad shop, or a good shop where the good hands work on other cicles, can’t even do that :beerchug:
 
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The tool isnt the problem when youre talking about cost...its the compressor. Several hundred vs. The 120 or so they want for an hour to slap my sprockets on. And then take into account that having the tool and the compressor doesnt mean im gonna be able to get the job done and i might end up buying a compressor and STILL taking it to the shop. Best not to take the risk in my case...ihave an unusually high failure rate historically
 
CP, Ingersoll Rand, Blue Point and m7, all 1/2' drive air impact guns I used within last 4 decades with no issues.
And the one that's left is my favourite: m7/NC-56110, 10,000 rpm, 500 ft-lb

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And there is nothing more embarrassing than slapping that new, powerful, expensive wrench on the nut and having it spin YOU around in circles.
 
m in sc_imp said:
like said, i wouldn't recommend it for those that don't do it a lot (air tools), I would recommend a DeWalt one. maybe i wasn't clear, its battery powered. 3 trips to the dealership would basically pay for it. And that things a brute for a consumer tool.

you can find this cheaper elsewhere but you get the point.

https://www.northerntool.com/produc...PNBByRDbUtr-8wAaAlaYEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds


also, bear this in mind, i actually worked for Desoutter/CP/AtlasCopco industrial tools for a good number of years, so i have experience with this on a professional level, and this was my choice FWIW.
NOthing wrong with electric power tool, especially newer generation.
 
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