2014 Ignition Key

[the Ferret]

The wave key spare for my NC 750 was stupid expensive for the blank and the cutting, but it's one of those big headed jobs that you can't carry in your wallet.

 

[mvk24_imp]

I just called around my area and found a dedicated locksmith shop who cut the key using one of my originals. I got the blank from Ebay.

That makes sense thats what I think they told me to do when I got my blank from the dealer.

Mind saying how much the locksmith charged you? I think I got quoted a price that I laughed at and thats why I never got it done

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

Heck, this is going back to 2019 when I bought the bike and just wanted a spare to keep my original keys safe... couldn't have been more than ten bucks.

That's just a simple, straight-cut key for my 2013 CB. For one of the fancier ones, like a newer bike, I'm sure it would be a lot more. I had the metal "emergency" portion of a spare key cut for my car, and it was a lot more since it was a laser-cut key.

Heck, this is going back to 2019 when I bought the bike and just wanted a spare to keep my original keys safe... couldn't have been more than ten bucks.

That's just a simple, straight-cut key for my 2013 CB. For one of the fancier ones, like a newer bike, I'm sure it would be a lot more. I had the metal "emergency" portion of a spare key cut for my car, and it was a lot more since it was a laser-cut key. Yea the dealer wanted $700 to cut and program a spare key for my subaru.. I declined and proceeded to ask how much crack cocaine they smoke to justify that price.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

 

[the Ferret]

$700????? that's more than the couple hundred Ducati wanted for my son's spare Monster key. Gads

 

[pekingduck]

The 2013-2014 keys from Honda always have the plastic knob. Locksmiths use either Ilco X265 or HD109.

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine.

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable.

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable. Thats good info, I have a 2014 so I assume its an older style key they cannot cut from 2017 back ?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable. Thats good info, I have a 2014 so I assume its an older style key they cannot cut from 2017 back ?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
If you have an original or duplicated key, and you have the blank, any key shop/locksmith can make a duplicate for cheap, under $10.

If you don't have any keys, and only have the key code that was on a tag on the key ring from the dealer, this company can cut it from the code number.

The greater cost is to help amortize the key machine, basically a CNC milling machine and continuously updating the software, which runs into the 5-digit price range.

 

[mvk24_imp]

The 2013-2014 keys from Honda always have the plastic knob. Locksmiths use either Ilco X265 or HD109.

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine.

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable.

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable. Thats good info, I have a 2014 so I assume its an older style key they cannot cut from 2017 back ?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable. Thats good info, I have a 2014 so I assume its an older style key they cannot cut from 2017 back ?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
If you have an original or duplicated key, and you have the blank, any key shop/locksmith can make a duplicate for cheap, under $10.

If you don't have any keys, and only have the key code that was on a tag on the key ring from the dealer, this company can cut it from the code number.

The greater cost is to help amortize the key machine, basically a CNC milling machine and continuously updating the software, which runs into the 5-digit price range.

So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable. Thats good info, I have a 2014 so I assume its an older style key they cannot cut from 2017 back ?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
If you have an original or duplicated key, and you have the blank, any key shop/locksmith can make a duplicate for cheap, under $10.

If you don't have any keys, and only have the key code that was on a tag on the key ring from the dealer, this company can cut it from the code number.

The greater cost is to help amortize the key machine, basically a CNC milling machine and continuously updating the software, which runs into the 5-digit price range. Gotcha gotcha, yes I have the original key (slightly bent) the spare factory key that is now my primary key. And a blank factory key.

Forgot all about it until this post.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

$700????? that's more than the couple hundred Ducati wanted for my son's spare Monster key. Gads

My uncle has a Ducati Minster Evo or w.e the 1200 version was called... sitting in a garage on a trickle charger with 48 original miles on it that he inherited from his brother and I want it so bad lmfao

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

 

[tomcat_imp]

https://www.ebay.com/usr/cyclekeysonline

This is the ebay seller I used to make a key by code on tag with a key that came with my CB. About $15 tax and shipping included. Will advise if it works. Now if I could only find a blank that fits my Hepco Becker top cases that doesn't have the infernal plastic covered head....

 

[the Ferret]

The 2013-2014 keys from Honda always have the plastic knob. Locksmiths use either Ilco X265 or HD109.

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine.

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable.

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable. Thats good info, I have a 2014 so I assume its an older style key they cannot cut from 2017 back ?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable. Thats good info, I have a 2014 so I assume its an older style key they cannot cut from 2017 back ?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
If you have an original or duplicated key, and you have the blank, any key shop/locksmith can make a duplicate for cheap, under $10.

If you don't have any keys, and only have the key code that was on a tag on the key ring from the dealer, this company can cut it from the code number.

The greater cost is to help amortize the key machine, basically a CNC milling machine and continuously updating the software, which runs into the 5-digit price range.

So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable. Thats good info, I have a 2014 so I assume its an older style key they cannot cut from 2017 back ?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
If you have an original or duplicated key, and you have the blank, any key shop/locksmith can make a duplicate for cheap, under $10.

If you don't have any keys, and only have the key code that was on a tag on the key ring from the dealer, this company can cut it from the code number.

The greater cost is to help amortize the key machine, basically a CNC milling machine and continuously updating the software, which runs into the 5-digit price range. Gotcha gotcha, yes I have the original key (slightly bent) the spare factory key that is now my primary key. And a blank factory key.

Forgot all about it until this post.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

$700????? that's more than the couple hundred Ducati wanted for my son's spare Monster key. Gads

My uncle has a Ducati Minster Evo or w.e the 1200 version was called... sitting in a garage on a trickle charger with 48 original miles on it that he inherited from his brother and I want it so bad lmfao

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

48 miles?

 

[mvk24_imp]

The 2013-2014 keys from Honda always have the plastic knob. Locksmiths use either Ilco X265 or HD109.

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine.

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable.

Do you know how we would go about ordering a key by code of theres no code on the factory keys?

Like how would they know to cut it for our specific ignition

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable. Thats good info, I have a 2014 so I assume its an older style key they cannot cut from 2017 back ?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

For many years, there has been no publicly available source for Honda (and most Japanese manufacturers) key codes. The simple, hand-held key cutting machines have been replaced with electronic cutting machines that are way too expensive for motorcycle dealers to buy.
Around 10 years ago, there were only 3 or 4 Honda dealers who had bought the machines. So the key manufacturers/sellers stopped providing any conversions between the manufacturer's code and the machine. So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable. Thats good info, I have a 2014 so I assume its an older style key they cannot cut from 2017 back ?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
If you have an original or duplicated key, and you have the blank, any key shop/locksmith can make a duplicate for cheap, under $10.

If you don't have any keys, and only have the key code that was on a tag on the key ring from the dealer, this company can cut it from the code number.

The greater cost is to help amortize the key machine, basically a CNC milling machine and continuously updating the software, which runs into the 5-digit price range.

So basically the lock Smith does it buy eye/in person with the original key is what you're saying?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
They use a tracing or duplicating machine.

Yamaha does not provide keys directly, instead directing their dealer to make inquiries to:

https://www.championkeys.com/product/keys-by-code/

They cut keys by code. I have spoken with them, and they can cut the new 2017 CB1100EX "wave-cut" keys.
Price is currently $45, a bargain if you've done the unthinkable. Thats good info, I have a 2014 so I assume its an older style key they cannot cut from 2017 back ?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
If you have an original or duplicated key, and you have the blank, any key shop/locksmith can make a duplicate for cheap, under $10.

If you don't have any keys, and only have the key code that was on a tag on the key ring from the dealer, this company can cut it from the code number.

The greater cost is to help amortize the key machine, basically a CNC milling machine and continuously updating the software, which runs into the 5-digit price range. Gotcha gotcha, yes I have the original key (slightly bent) the spare factory key that is now my primary key. And a blank factory key.

Forgot all about it until this post.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

$700????? that's more than the couple hundred Ducati wanted for my son's spare Monster key. Gads

My uncle has a Ducati Minster Evo or w.e the 1200 version was called... sitting in a garage on a trickle charger with 48 original miles on it that he inherited from his brother and I want it so bad lmfao

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

48 miles?

48 miles? You read that right, his brother bought it, road it home. And passed away before he got to ride it much more.

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

https://www.ebay.com/usr/cyclekeysonline

This is the ebay seller I used to make a key by code on tag with a key that came with my CB. About $15 tax and shipping included. Will advise if it works. Now if I could only find a blank that fits my Hepco Becker top cases that doesn't have the infernal plastic covered head....

Hey so I just looked and luckily I still have the key tag from when my neighbor bought the bike new on my other key.

Its a 4 digit code next to "serial" on the tag.

Is that the keytag code you gave the guy on ebay?

2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca

 

[peterbaron]

I have two cut, one red for my DLX and the other for my std, and I always hwve both spare when riding any of my bikes.
All numbers are visible:

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

I have always kept the spare ignition keys locked away and have never used them.

When I sell the vehicle, they always get a brand new key (never used), and a very worn down key.

 

[tomcat_imp]

The key number tag for my CB was 8 digits with only numbers 1, 2 and 3. I'd recommend contacting the vendor first and run your code by him as Honda has some codes that have letters and numbers.

 

[milkmaster_imp]

 

[tomcat_imp]

Thanks milkmaster.

 

[tomcat_imp]

JMA Key was cut by locksmith using key code.Blank number Hond 33, HD 114.

 

[tomcat_imp]

Sold my 2014 standard and the stock and replacement keys went with it. Had two OEM Honda keys with the 2014 Deluxe but no key code. Contacted Key Code Information | Cycle Keys Online and sent key photo per instructions. He cut two spare keys using photo and sent them along with the key code. Both keys worked perfectly, cost $21.98 including postage. Living in area with few locksmiths that even have correct blank is a pain, this was a bargain to me.

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

Sold my 2014 standard and the stock and replacement keys went with it. Had two OEM Honda keys with the 2014 Deluxe but no key code. Contacted Key Code Information | Cycle Keys Online and sent key photo per instructions. He cut two spare keys using photo and sent them along with the key code. Both keys worked perfectly, cost $21.98 including postage. Living in area with few locksmiths that even have correct blank is a pain, this was a bargain to me.

Excellent. Thanks for sharing the experience, tomcat.

 

[Cormanus]

That’s impressive.

 

[The Gecko_imp]

Amazing how many people use those red key tags "remove before flight", who have never been sitting in an airplane which needs those tags in the first place (and weigh under 150 tons at take-off