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Chain & Sprocket Questions
#1
Hey all,

So I went for one of those motorcycle detailing (where they wash your bike and try to sell you expensive soap) and I had my chain stripped off the oil and relubed. The guy mentioned that my chain is rusty (let me know if you want images of the chain and/or the wash) so I am in the market for a new chain.

Since I got this bike 2nd hand, I don't know if the previous owner took care of the bike as properly as I would. A friend of mine told me that it would be best to change sprockets + chain as to know the mileage between them.

Snooped around online and on Webike, they have this;
https://japan.webike.net/products/22639154.html

I was looking at the one that comes with the black/gold chain (because aesthetics) and that I heard EK chains are up there with the best.

Your thoughts if this is value for $$?
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#2
arse-onist have a look at this video in german, at 03:40 he checks the chain for wear by pulling it off the rear sprocket, normally with a good chain nothing pulls off the sprocket but his chain is worn out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r86sDyFtNVY

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#3
wd40 to get the rust off. should come right off. then 50/50 kerosene and gunk degreaser. then rinse well and ride immediately to dry. once good and dry and warm/hot then a good chain wax. far less $$ than new chain you probably dont need
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#4
Still using the original [once] rust encrusted chain of yesteryear. Sprockets are fine. I managed to recover the chain only because the rust did not get near the o-ring areas. Did as jimgl3 described (sans the chain wax) and plunked a Tutor auto-oiler on it. That was about four years ago. Never looked back.
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#5
(08-12-2019, 08:50 PM)max_imp Wrote: arse-onist have a look at this video in german, at 03:40 he checks the chain for wear by pulling it off the rear sprocket, normally with a good chain nothing pulls off the sprocket but his chain is worn out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r86sDyFtNVY

.

Nice to see a link to ZAMsChannel here. I really like Martin's videos, a lot of valuable wrenching knowledge. Well, a bit difficult to watch, if you don't speak German. Cool
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#6
i can only speak of my own purchases here, but i've considered them well worth the expense. I purchased DID ZVMX X-ring chain (black and gold!) and a Supersprox Hybrid AL/Steel sprocket directly from Supersprox (Also black and gold) and they work and fit fantastic.

the DID chains are everywhere, and the prices vary wildly from vendor to vendor. look around a lot. the Supersprox is best purchased right from the source.
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#7
Agreed django, i watch almost all of his movies and although he is addicted to his tools he also explains a lot of good information and literally takes everything to bits, me being from amsterdam i get better at listening to him, it's good practice and he has a good sense of humor.

Sometimes i cringe when he makes a mistake but i still learn from that, and he is an honest fellow and a ham radio guy ( dl1zam ) he also works on his cb1300's and they are a close cousin to our cb1100 and a lot of parts are the same, thanks again for sharing your trip and all the photo's Django.
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#8
I'm a big fan of X-ring DID chains. Excellent product.
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#9
(08-12-2019, 08:50 PM)max_imp Wrote: arse-onist have a look at this video in german, at 03:40 he checks the chain for wear by pulling it off the rear sprocket, normally with a good chain nothing pulls off the sprocket but his chain is worn out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r86sDyFtNVY

.

Tried his method and the chain is good. Probably try WD40 to try and remove the rust. I do have some degreaser with me and a good chain lube too. Will try and update with results.


Thanks guys!
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#10
(08-13-2019, 04:03 AM)Rocky_imp Wrote: I'm a big fan of X-ring DID chains. Excellent product.

+1 I've been using DID chains exclusively for the past few decades. Never had a bad one.

As for sprockets, I used to replace the sprockets with the chain out of habit, but several years ago I pulled the sprockets (steel Sunstars) off my CB750 and noticed that they looked nearly identical to the new ones in a side by side comparison. Throwing caution to the winds, I cleaned up the old sprockets and put them back on. That was 30K miles ago and both the chain and the sprockets still look good.

I no longer hold to the belief that sprockets must be replaced with the chain. Now I look and see if there is any actual wear showing. Pointed teeth or asymetrical curves between the teeth are common signs of wear.
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