oil filter cross threaded

[jjchowdy_imp]

I'm thinking you may be right about the replacement. It's the type of thing that will bug the heck out of me if it's not perfect. If I can find one of these locally and have it up and running by the weekend, that would make me happy. I doubt it though. Might go ahead and order it. You guys are wise. Thank you so much. My DIY confidence is nonexistent right now.

[Lord Popgun]

The manual (for both '13 and '14) say when changing the oil filter, ensure the boss is tight. If not, apply locking agent and torque to specified value.

The boss specs are: Thread diameter: 20mm, torque 13 ft lbs. Apply locking agent.

The manual says to use medium strength locking agent, unless otherwise specified. Nothing is otherwise specified (for the boss, that is)

[Cormanus]

jjchowdy, if I were in your boots I'd be feeling about the same. I'd not be at all confident about how to get the thing out. Try search YouTube for a similar dilemma so you can at least get a sense of what you have to do. Or perhaps one of our very helpful colleagues can point you at one.

Alternatively, do you have a mate with the mechanical smarts whom you could enlist to help?

For what it's worth, if it were me, I'd also try to replace it.

[Lord Popgun]

Cormanus,

Since you don't care if it gets messed up, as it already is, just plug the holes around it so as to not get anything into the engine and spin it out using some vice grips, or channel locks or maybe even a small size pipe wrench. Medium strength locker should give up the ghost pretty easily.

13 ft lbs isn't much and on mine I might would just spin it in with a strap wrench till snug. Or MAYBE wrap something around the new one and use the small pipe wrench again. Unless I could get 2 nuts that would fit. Without doing the 2 nut thing I don't see how you would put a torque wrench on it.

Really though, it is not a big job. Or a hard or that critical one.

[Elipten_imp]

Overnight express order it if not in stock locally. And I vote to replace.

[jjchowdy_imp]

well I've definitely decided on replacing. The part is fairly common among Honda models. I"m gonna hit the phones early and see if I can find one locally. If I find one, I'll move on to removing the bolt from the engine. I'm gonna try vice grips and hope it breaks loose, put medium locker on new one and put in. I will definitely update as to where I'm at. At least if someone puts themselves in this position, they'll have a reference. I got the help I knew I would from you guys. Cheers.

[NightRider_imp]

Wait. Wait...don't skirt the real question here that everyone wants an answer to, a question that must be asked without changing this into (yet) another oil filter thread...especially since we all know it was agreed by all great CB1100 riders, so very long ago, that only OEM Honda oil filters are acceptable to the aforementioned all great CB1100 riders. That question is of course "what brand of oil filter was this?"

[Cormanus]

Cormanus,

Since you don't care if it gets messed up, as it already is, just plug the holes around it so as to not get anything into the engine and spin it out using some vice grips, or channel locks or maybe even a small size pipe wrench. Medium strength locker should give up the ghost pretty easily.

13 ft lbs isn't much and on mine I might would just spin it in with a strap wrench till snug. Or MAYBE wrap something around the new one and use the small pipe wrench again. Unless I could get 2 nuts that would fit. Without doing the 2 nut thing I don't see how you would put a torque wrench on it.

Really though, it is not a big job. Or a hard or that critical one.

Did I say that? Don't think so. I was trying to say that you guys who know what's required make it all sound very easy. It probably is, but until I actually saw what had to be done, I might not find the written advice all that clear.

Is it right that the thread the oil filter screws into has been damaged? And that it's in a sleeve screwed into the engine? And that the only way to get it out is getting something inside it? If so, mechanical klutz that I am, I'd be treading very carefully—perhaps because I may not have the right tools and I'd be almost sure to make a mess which, clearly, I do not want to do because I don;t want little bits of metal in the oil.

I remain eager to learn though.

[jjchowdy_imp]

Wait. Wait...don't skirt the real question here that everyone wants an answer to, a question that must be asked without changing this into (yet) another oil filter thread...especially since we all know it was agreed by all great CB1100 riders, so very long ago, that only OEM Honda oil filters are acceptable to the aforementioned all great CB1100 riders. That question is of course "what brand of oil filter was this?"

K&N chrome filter. the kind with the nut on the end of it. I'll be using Honda OEM from now on

Cormanus,

Since you don't care if it gets messed up, as it already is, just plug the holes around it so as to not get anything into the engine and spin it out using some vice grips, or channel locks or maybe even a small size pipe wrench. Medium strength locker should give up the ghost pretty easily.

13 ft lbs isn't much and on mine I might would just spin it in with a strap wrench till snug. Or MAYBE wrap something around the new one and use the small pipe wrench again. Unless I could get 2 nuts that would fit. Without doing the 2 nut thing I don't see how you would put a torque wrench on it.

Really though, it is not a big job. Or a hard or that critical one.

Did I say that? Don't think so. I was trying to say that you guys who know what's required make it all sound very easy. It probably is, but until I actually saw what had to be done, I might not find the written advice all that clear.

Is it right that the thread the oil filter screws into has been damaged? And that it's in a sleeve screwed into the engine? And that the only way to get it out is getting something inside it? If so, mechanical klutz that I am, I'd be treading very carefully—perhaps because I may not have the right tools and I'd be almost sure to make a mess which, clearly, I do not want to do because I don;t want little bits of metal in the oil.

I remain eager to learn though.

Did I say that? Don't think so. I was trying to say that you guys who know what's required make it all sound very easy. It probably is, but until I actually saw what had to be done, I might not find the written advice all that clear.

Is it right that the thread the oil filter screws into has been damaged? And that it's in a sleeve screwed into the engine? And that the only way to get it out is getting something inside it? If so, mechanical klutz that I am, I'd be treading very carefully—perhaps because I may not have the right tools and I'd be almost sure to make a mess which, clearly, I do not want to do because I don;t want little bits of metal in the oil.

I remain eager to learn though.
yes. the screw that the filter mounts to is damaged.so I took it that he was saying, if I damage it more taking it out, no real loss, as I'm replacing it anyways.

[Lord Popgun]

Yeah, I didn't meant that Cormanus didn't care. Sorry about that. Cause he is a caring man

I just meant that since it is already damaged, you don't care if you damage it more removing it as it will then be replaced by a new one.

PS. Cormanus, its just a piece of threaded pipe that is screwed into a threaded hole in the crankcase.

I have to go to bed now, work tomorrow