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ok...pictures are lovely but how do i get one in my hands in the next 15 minutes or so?
nvm. screw it. i threaded the wires completely out of the bike and just pulled the exhaust with the o2 sensor still connected. with the pcv installed, the o2 sensor is neutered anyway.
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Very easy to make a O2 sensor removal tool , just cut down a socket , I made one in about 5 minutes but an angle grinder would be helpful.
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(05-05-2019, 05:42 AM)Houtman_imp Wrote: Very easy to make a O2 sensor removal tool , just cut down a socket , I made one in about 5 minutes but an angle grinder would be helpful.
lol nope, don't own one of those, nor do i own a socket that's deep enough, and my dremel definitely isn't powerful enough to cut a socket.
like i said though, with the PCV installed i have no need for the O2 sensor in the first place. it's fine to just leave it connected to the stock exhaust that i removed.
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well this is just great. the bolt that's supposed to plug the port for th O2 sensor in my new exhaust is conveniently missing from the package I got from Mr. T. OF COURSE it has to be this way. it wouldn't be my life otherwise.
so, now i have no choice but to extract the O2 sensor from my old exhaust SOMEHOW, because i've already been riding around all over town trying to find a bolt to plug the port and apparently there's never been a M12-1.25 x 12mm bolt made in the history of bolts.
Creative solutions guys....how does one get an O2 sensor out unharmed without the special single-use extremely specific socket that nobody told me i needed?
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If you do not have a deep socket you could cut a small piece out of a ring spanner, this will than fit over the sensor.
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I might have been able to cut a ring spanner if i wore one of my cutting wheels out completely, but the ring spanner is still too thick to wrap around the o2 sensor and be able to turn. It had to be a socket.
So here's my solution:
now any old 17mm deep socket fits right over it. simple. Obviously i've ruined a perfectly good O2 sensor, but i checked tirelessly with anybody who i thought would have knowledge on this procedure and and nobody once mentioned that highly specific special tool to remove the O2 sensor. With my bike in pieces i can't wait a week or a week and a half to order a tool. The good news is that I have no use for the O2 sensor. However, i still really strongly dislike ruining any of my original OEM parts for any reason.
Now on to the next disaster:
Everything is re-assembled and back in order. I just have one part left to put on. My muffler. Here's the catch though, for some reason it now will not clamp into place securely. even when i get it 100% perfectly seated into place on the end of the new collector, put the ring clamp in exactly the right spot, and tighten it down all the way until it won't tighten anymore, it still slips around and rotates. in fact, with one easy tug i can pull it right off. obviously I cannot run the bike like this, and i'm now sitting at home taking off work because my muffler still isn't installed.
So, what the heck am i doing wrong now? this muffler clamped down fast and secure and rode for many thousands of miles without budging even 1mm, but now all the sudden will not clamp properly??? Please tell me my only solution isn't to JBweld adhesive compound the thing permanently onto the header and create a 1-piece exhaust. can JBweld even bond titanium to steel?
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If you had a angle grinder or normal grinder you could have ground down the ring spanner to make it fit. Is the clamp too big and therefor you can not tight it down enough or does it need a gasket in between the ring and exhaust , I do not know precisely what you mean with not being able to tighten the ring. This is only to help you and not mend to insult you but having the right tools available will prevent a lot of frustration and extra cost when working on your bike/car.
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(05-05-2019, 11:39 PM)Houtman_imp Wrote: If you had a angle grinder or normal grinder you could have ground down the ring spanner to make it fit. Is the clamp too big and therefor you can not tight it down enough or does it need a gasket in between the ring and exhaust , I do not know precisely what you mean with not being able to tighten the ring. This is only to help you and not mend to insult you but having the right tools available will prevent a lot of frustration and extra cost when working on your bike/car.
i agree with that sentiment, and I made every effort to buy the right tools along with the parts, but nobody mentioned the O2 Sensor tool. it seems to have conveniently slipped everybody's mind i guess. I would have gladly bought one, but as it is now, i'm stuck with a disassembled bike and it's too late to buy one. it's too late to buy an angle grinder or any of that mess. the budget is set and the purchase is made. the only thing to do now is find a way to make things work with what I have.
at any rate, the O2 sensor issue is solved, albeit in a kind of a brutal way.
As for the muffler...it installs perfectly on the stock headers. it installs just as perfectly as the stock muffler did. these new headers are intended to install just fine with the stock muffler as well. However, for some reason my muffler and the new headers just won't make a secure connection.
There's no gasket or other part that came with either the header or the muffler, nor was there one used to make a secure connection between this muffler and the stock headers, so i can only assume that neither is needed. it's as if the titanium is just....i don't know...more slippery? is it possible for a muffler to get "worn out" so that it can't be reinstalled on a new header?
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Minor update: i've taken a picture of the inside of the slip on muffler pipe. the red goop is of course silicone sealant, but this metallic stuff that seems to be flaking off the inside has me worried. Is there a gasket built into the inside of the pipe that's falling apart? am i supposed to be able to replace that? it seems to be permanently fixed inside the pipe.
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The first thing when working on a bike is to get the shop manual and than you would have noticed the special tool needed for the removal of the O2 sensor (about $170 for a new O2 sensor )
Most Honda's have a special silver coloured gasket to seal the pipes , is that what is missing , they are very cheap and your local dealer should have them in stock.
I am trying to help and not be critical towards all your efforts.
