06-10-2019, 12:10 AM
(06-09-2019, 10:47 PM)Bazbro_imp Wrote:(06-09-2019, 10:16 PM)Bheezy27403_imp Wrote:(06-09-2019, 09:20 AM)Houtman_imp Wrote: You will like a red light camera after a car hit you or someone in your family gets hurt by a car running a red light.
A red light camera will do nothing to prevent that. They aren't there for safety, they are strictly an income producing construct set up by lazy governments.
A red light camera will do nothing to prevent that. They aren't there for safety, they are strictly an income producing construct set up by lazy governments.
Sorry, but I strongly disagree, Bheezy.
The UK figures show that well-placed cameras at accident-spot junctions and stretches of road really DO focus minds and reduce collisions,/deaths.
What went wrong in the UK was that every council jumped onto the bandwagon and were putting up cameras all over the place in inappropriate spots too. This blatant "revenue earning" was exposed for what it was and the government put a stop to it due to public protest.
So there is a middle way - dangerous junctions or stretches of road protected by cameras, but a proliferation of merely revenue-earning cameras is a no-no. That'sl all you have to guard against.
A spin-off from this is that when you're warned there is a camera, you KNOW it is an accident black spot and can react accordingly with extra care.
A red light camera will do nothing to prevent that. They aren't there for safety, they are strictly an income producing construct set up by lazy governments.
Sorry, but I strongly disagree, Bheezy.

The UK figures show that well-placed cameras at accident-spot junctions and stretches of road really DO focus minds and reduce collisions,/deaths.
What went wrong in the UK was that every council jumped onto the bandwagon and were putting up cameras all over the place in inappropriate spots too. This blatant "revenue earning" was exposed for what it was and the government put a stop to it due to public protest.
So there is a middle way - dangerous junctions or stretches of road protected by cameras, but a proliferation of merely revenue-earning cameras is a no-no. That'sl all you have to guard against.
A spin-off from this is that when you're warned there is a camera, you KNOW it is an accident black spot and can react accordingly with extra care.
I agree wholeheartedly, the camera's are in essence a good idea and do have an impact on the safety, but, the as Bazbro say's the councils in the UK have used them as a huge "cash cow"
Interesting to hear so many of the US members saying they would like to see the noise camera's on their side of the pond, in a lot of cases with bike exhausts the ones that make the most noise seem to be Harley's

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-n...l-vehicles
