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Interactive exhaust valve
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(04-27-2014, 11:05 PM)The Spaceman_imp Wrote:
(04-27-2014, 06:03 AM)Red Mist_imp Wrote: I wish my bike had this. All the Yamahas I've had were fitted with EXUP and they are able to retain excellent, flat torque curves, whilst meeting emissions regulations, by using this feature. My GSX-R 750 has this also and has very good low end and midrange.

There is all kinds of science involved with this kind of valve; it costs more money to include but it is a performance-enhancing feature. It's not there to cut noise or anything else.

My FZ8 doesn't have this and it exhibits the typical "flat spot" on the dyno we get with an inline four. A lot of I4's with a race pipe, which is always tuned for top end, really "come on the pipe" with a kick which makes the bike feel quite a bit faster than it really is. We don't need top end for street riding, low-end and mids are what it's all about.

The flat spot is caused by the Heimholtz resonance, which is basically two pressure waves fighting each other in the midrange. By varying the exhaust back pressure, this is eliminated and greatly helps airflow through the engine. This lets us maintain top-end power whilst preserving driveability. Racebikes don't use this because they rarely get that low in the powerband.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXUP]Power Valves explained

A little footnote to this, many of the guys/gals on one of the other forums I visit, Gixxer.com, are busy tearing out the power valve and yanking cables and heaving parts into the trash bin. They might just as well have bought a GSX-R 600 because they've just removed most of what makes the 750 great: its low end and mid-range power.

Do the Gixxers also have the secondary butterflies that are on the DL (VStrom) bikes?

I never ceased to be amazed at the endless threads on Stromtrooper and other sites from guys who removed the secondary throttle system "for more power" and then spent endless hours and money trying to get the power delivery back to something close to stock. All that for perhaps 3-4 HP, and that only at WOT?
Yeah, they do. The 750 has two power modes, one mimics the 600's powerband pretty closely and limits the peak power and torque. The other is full power.

For racing the exhaust valve should be tossed of course, because we're always in the top third of the powerband (almost always) but for street and track day use, the exhaust valve really helps smooth power delivery and maintain good, usable torque.
Here's some confirmation from an Aussie reviewer that the Interactive Exhaust Valve does increase low-end:

[url=http://motorcycleparadise.blogspot.com/2013/01/honda-cb1100-long-term-review-and-info.html]Be aware if you change the exhaust it will soften the lower rpm drive a little.The factory muffler has a interactive valve. I had to quieten my 4 to 4 down just to make it something to live with but in doing so my lower rpm response firmed back up and I was lucky to find the sweet spot where it is now.
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Interactive exhaust valve - by VTR1000F_imp - 04-25-2014, 12:42 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Lord Popgun - 04-25-2014, 02:11 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by the Ferret - 04-25-2014, 02:32 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Deanohh_imp - 04-25-2014, 07:23 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Randy B - 04-25-2014, 11:32 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by wildezt_imp - 04-25-2014, 07:13 PM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Tyke57nz_imp - 04-25-2014, 08:59 PM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by the Ferret - 04-25-2014, 09:53 PM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Randy B - 04-26-2014, 04:55 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by the Ferret - 04-26-2014, 05:13 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Deanohh_imp - 04-26-2014, 05:28 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Rboe_imp - 04-26-2014, 10:36 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by the Ferret - 04-26-2014, 10:59 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Tyke57nz_imp - 04-26-2014, 01:12 PM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Tyke57nz_imp - 04-26-2014, 08:52 PM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Red Mist_imp - 04-27-2014, 06:03 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Tortuga_imp - 04-27-2014, 07:54 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Red Mist_imp - 04-27-2014, 09:52 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Tortuga_imp - 04-27-2014, 09:55 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Red Mist_imp - 04-27-2014, 10:00 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Tortuga_imp - 04-27-2014, 10:01 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Rboe_imp - 04-28-2014, 01:03 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Red Mist_imp - 04-28-2014, 02:43 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by VTR1000F_imp - 04-29-2014, 12:45 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Red Mist_imp - 04-30-2014, 04:13 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by AzBob_imp - 04-30-2014, 07:30 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Tortuga_imp - 04-30-2014, 09:08 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Red Mist_imp - 04-30-2014, 09:30 AM
RE: Interactive exhaust valve - by Rboe_imp - 04-30-2014, 02:02 PM

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