Larger tank on 2013 model?

[the Ferret]

Didier, I thought several members had mounted the EX tanks, bought from Samurider of Japan, on their bikes. Maybe I am mistaken. I'm sure they will chime in and let us know. Did Honda France say why they thought the tank would not fit? I know several members have put 14 seats and side covers on their 13s

[flynrider]

Didier, I thought several members had mounted the EX tanks, bought from Samurider of Japan, on their bikes. Maybe I am mistaken. I'm sure they will chime in and let us know. Did Honda France say why they thought the tank would not fit? I know several members have put 14 seats and side covers on their 13s

I don't recall anyone on here mounting a '14 DLX tank on a '13 model (of course I could be wrong).

I think KennyB may have hit on the issue in his post above. The '14 DLX uses a different fuel pump and as I recall, the fuel pressure requirement for the DLX was substantially higher than the '13 model. It doesn't look like a '13 fuel pump would mount directly to the DLX tank and the question would be, what would happen if you used the higher pressure DLX pump on a '13 fuel system? I'm pretty much a carb guy when it comes to fuel systems, so I wouldn't venture a guess as to whether or not it would make a difference, but it sounds like an expensive experiment

[the Ferret]

Ahhh thanks for the correction Flynrider. I was thinking about the fit and not about the fuel pump. I also agree a gas can for $2 stashed in the hack, or a couple of those fuel bottles ADV riders use, would be a better alternative than a tank for $600.

[Dakota_imp]

Didier, I thought several members had mounted the EX tanks, bought from Samurider of Japan, on their bikes. Maybe I am mistaken. I'm sure they will chime in and let us know. Did Honda France say why they thought the tank would not fit? I know several members have put 14 seats and side covers on their 13s

I don't recall anyone on here mounting a '14 DLX tank on a '13 model (of course I could be wrong).

I think KennyB may have hit on the issue in his post above. The '14 DLX uses a different fuel pump and as I recall, the fuel pressure requirement for the DLX was substantially higher than the '13 model. It doesn't look like a '13 fuel pump would mount directly to the DLX tank and the question would be, what would happen if you used the higher pressure DLX pump on a '13 fuel system? I'm pretty much a carb guy when it comes to fuel systems, so I wouldn't venture a guess as to whether or not it would make a difference, but it sounds like an expensive experiment

I don't recall anyone on here mounting a '14 DLX tank on a '13 model (of course I could be wrong).

I think KennyB may have hit on the issue in his post above. The '14 DLX uses a different fuel pump and as I recall, the fuel pressure requirement for the DLX was substantially higher than the '13 model. It doesn't look like a '13 fuel pump would mount directly to the DLX tank and the question would be, what would happen if you used the higher pressure DLX pump on a '13 fuel system? I'm pretty much a carb guy when it comes to fuel systems, so I wouldn't venture a guess as to whether or not it would make a difference, but it sounds like an expensive experiment
I understood the 13 and 14 dlx to have the same engine (same displacement, same horsepower, etc). Why would one need "substantially" higher fuel pressure?

[flynrider]

Didier, I thought several members had mounted the EX tanks, bought from Samurider of Japan, on their bikes. Maybe I am mistaken. I'm sure they will chime in and let us know. Did Honda France say why they thought the tank would not fit? I know several members have put 14 seats and side covers on their 13s

I don't recall anyone on here mounting a '14 DLX tank on a '13 model (of course I could be wrong).

I think KennyB may have hit on the issue in his post above. The '14 DLX uses a different fuel pump and as I recall, the fuel pressure requirement for the DLX was substantially higher than the '13 model. It doesn't look like a '13 fuel pump would mount directly to the DLX tank and the question would be, what would happen if you used the higher pressure DLX pump on a '13 fuel system? I'm pretty much a carb guy when it comes to fuel systems, so I wouldn't venture a guess as to whether or not it would make a difference, but it sounds like an expensive experiment

I don't recall anyone on here mounting a '14 DLX tank on a '13 model (of course I could be wrong).

I think KennyB may have hit on the issue in his post above. The '14 DLX uses a different fuel pump and as I recall, the fuel pressure requirement for the DLX was substantially higher than the '13 model. It doesn't look like a '13 fuel pump would mount directly to the DLX tank and the question would be, what would happen if you used the higher pressure DLX pump on a '13 fuel system? I'm pretty much a carb guy when it comes to fuel systems, so I wouldn't venture a guess as to whether or not it would make a difference, but it sounds like an expensive experiment
I understood the 13 and 14 dlx to have the same engine (same displacement, same horsepower, etc). Why would one need "substantially" higher fuel pressure?

They have the same engine, but Honda changed the fuel system on the DLX/EX for some reason. That was one of the quirks noticed when the shop manual was published this year. The DLX also requires different amounts of fluid for each front fork, while the STD model uses the same in each. I don't think anyone has figured out the reason for that one either.

[Django]

Didier, I thought several members had mounted the EX tanks, bought from Samurider of Japan, on their bikes. Maybe I am mistaken. I'm sure they will chime in and let us know. Did Honda France say why they thought the tank would not fit? I know several members have put 14 seats and side covers on their 13s

I don't recall anyone on here mounting a '14 DLX tank on a '13 model (of course I could be wrong).

I think KennyB may have hit on the issue in his post above. The '14 DLX uses a different fuel pump and as I recall, the fuel pressure requirement for the DLX was substantially higher than the '13 model. It doesn't look like a '13 fuel pump would mount directly to the DLX tank and the question would be, what would happen if you used the higher pressure DLX pump on a '13 fuel system? I'm pretty much a carb guy when it comes to fuel systems, so I wouldn't venture a guess as to whether or not it would make a difference, but it sounds like an expensive experiment

I don't recall anyone on here mounting a '14 DLX tank on a '13 model (of course I could be wrong).

I think KennyB may have hit on the issue in his post above. The '14 DLX uses a different fuel pump and as I recall, the fuel pressure requirement for the DLX was substantially higher than the '13 model. It doesn't look like a '13 fuel pump would mount directly to the DLX tank and the question would be, what would happen if you used the higher pressure DLX pump on a '13 fuel system? I'm pretty much a carb guy when it comes to fuel systems, so I wouldn't venture a guess as to whether or not it would make a difference, but it sounds like an expensive experiment
I understood the 13 and 14 dlx to have the same engine (same displacement, same horsepower, etc). Why would one need "substantially" higher fuel pressure?

They have the same engine, but Honda changed the fuel system on the DLX/EX for some reason. That was one of the quirks noticed when the shop manual was published this year. The DLX also requires different amounts of fluid for each front fork, while the STD model uses the same in each. I don't think anyone has figured out the reason for that one either.

Just for refill (different hold back of old oil) or also for first fill?

I know this already from my BMW K1100. There is pull damping cartridge on one side, push damping on the other side. They have a different hold back of oil, when you drain it for oil change.

[magic_imp]

I have a great 2013 model and may, in a year or so, put a Hannigan Sprint sidecar on. Will the larger tank from a 2014 model fit with no mods? Is there a 5 gallon tank available anywhere - Japan?
This bike would make an excellent tug for a sidecar rig - except for the small tank. Thoughts? Suggestions?

hello, here is the answer Mr. Takashi Takase samurider.
You can mount the tank of 17.5 liters in place of 14.6 liters (cb 1100 2013)

Thank you very much for your inquiry.
Regards to your question, the CB1100EX tank can fit the 2013 CB1100.
Unit Price: 83000yen
Shipping: 11500yen
Total Price: 94500Yen / approx 700Euros.

*not include tax in France.
*approx 1-2 weeks to your door in France.

http://www.samurider.com/?cat=269

I will send you an invoice through PayPal, if you agree with that.
Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Takashi Takase


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[hb9400_imp]

Very nice to know, the EX (deluxe) tank in white would look very nice.

[Django]

Hi Magic,

if you go this path, please keep us informed and send pics.

[KennyB_imp]

I have a great 2013 model and may, in a year or so, put a Hannigan Sprint sidecar on. Will the larger tank from a 2014 model fit with no mods? Is there a 5 gallon tank available anywhere - Japan?
This bike would make an excellent tug for a sidecar rig - except for the small tank. Thoughts? Suggestions?

hello, here is the answer Mr. Takashi Takase samurider.
You can mount the tank of 17.5 liters in place of 14.6 liters (cb 1100 2013)

Thank you very much for your inquiry.
Regards to your question, the CB1100EX tank can fit the 2013 CB1100.
Unit Price: 83000yen
Shipping: 11500yen
Total Price: 94500Yen / approx 700Euros.

*not include tax in France.
*approx 1-2 weeks to your door in France.

http://www.samurider.com/?cat=269

I will send you an invoice through PayPal, if you agree with that.
Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Takashi Takase


-----Samurider.Com------

yourbase.llc 4-11-13 Ebisu Shibuya- Tokyo Japan 1500013
E: contact@samurider.com
T: +813-6408-9245
F: +813-6408-9246
http://www.samurider.com
http://www.facebook.com/samurider.fanpage

hello, here is the answer Mr. Takashi Takase samurider.
You can mount the tank of 17.5 liters in place of 14.6 liters (cb 1100 2013)

Thank you very much for your inquiry.
Regards to your question, the CB1100EX tank can fit the 2013 CB1100.
Unit Price: 83000yen
Shipping: 11500yen
Total Price: 94500Yen / approx 700Euros.

*not include tax in France.
*approx 1-2 weeks to your door in France.

http://www.samurider.com/?cat=269

I will send you an invoice through PayPal, if you agree with that.
Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Takashi Takase


-----Samurider.Com------

yourbase.llc 4-11-13 Ebisu Shibuya- Tokyo Japan 1500013
E: contact@samurider.com
T: +813-6408-9245
F: +813-6408-9246
http://www.samurider.com
http://www.facebook.com/samurider.fanpage
The larger tank will fit and the 13' fuel pump will bolt right up to the 14' tank. The fuel pressure spec for both systems is 50 psi at idle. The fuel flow rates are: 13' 9.8 us oz./10 sec. and 14' 13.3 us oz./10 sec. I'm not sure why? Injectors are the same, cams are the same, etc. unless it has to do with tank volume. The physical shape of the fuel pumps are different with different pick-ups for the sending unit so I'm not sure how the fuel gauge will read.