Torque settings (oil change)

[redbirds_imp]

The factory service manual says 30 Nm or 22 ft lb for the drain plug and 18 Nm or 13 ft lb. I always use a fresh crush washer and just snug the drain plug. I hand tighten the filter. Run the engine to normal temp and check for leaks. Never a leak in over 40 years of doing it this way.

No mention in the manual for the engine being hot or cold but would be reasonable to assume that the engine would be warm since the oil should be drained when still hot.

I use the same dirt cheap filter wrench that I got at the discount store years ago for my Honda Civic.

Redbirds, I believe the manual calls for 19 foot pounds on the filter (not 13)

regardless yea hand tighten. 19 ft lbs is a lot.

Redbirds, I believe the manual calls for 19 foot pounds on the filter (not 13)

regardless yea hand tighten. 19 ft lbs is a lot.
Right you are Ferret, I mistakenly was looking at the torque for the oil filter boss.

[Tortuga_imp]

I always drain the oil as hot as possible. Not only will any contaminants be in suspension, but hot oil is thinner and will drain faster and more completely.

I have a special "oil change glove", which is actually just an old thick (oil soaked) leather work glove. I put it on to protect my hand from the hot oil when I unscrew the drain bolt.

Edit : Oh, I also don't torque the filter. Once the filter seats, it gets an extra half turn. Been doing it that way for decades and haven't had one leak yet.

Sounds reasonable. Being a bush mechanic, torque wrench for bearings, cylinder heads etc. and the rest by feel. So far so good (50yrs).

Cheers

Sounds reasonable. Being a bush mechanic, torque wrench for bearings, cylinder heads etc. and the rest by feel. So far so good (50yrs).

Cheers
"Bush mechanic". I like that.

We call them "Gynaecologists" or something.

[Houtman_imp]

I love your English sense of humor Tortuga !
Benny Hill is still my all time favorite comedian.
We lived for seven years in Tunbridge Wells.

[Pterodactyl_imp]

I always drain the oil as hot as possible. Not only will any contaminants be in suspension, but hot oil is thinner and will drain faster and more completely.

I have a special "oil change glove", which is actually just an old thick (oil soaked) leather work glove. I put it on to protect my hand from the hot oil when I unscrew the drain bolt.

Edit : Oh, I also don't torque the filter. Once the filter seats, it gets an extra half turn. Been doing it that way for decades and haven't had one leak yet.

Sounds reasonable. Being a bush mechanic, torque wrench for bearings, cylinder heads etc. and the rest by feel. So far so good (50yrs).

Cheers

Sounds reasonable. Being a bush mechanic, torque wrench for bearings, cylinder heads etc. and the rest by feel. So far so good (50yrs).

Cheers
"Bush mechanic". I like that.

We call them "Gynaecologists" or something.

What with me doing it by feel, and Flynrider not having had a leak for decades, this thread is out of control.

Love it, just love it. Speaking of which:

Gynaecologist becomes Motorcycle Mechanic
A successful gynaecologist decides to fulfill his life's dream: give up medical practice and become a motorcycle mechanic.
So he gets out of the medical business and enrolls at a mechanic's seminar with Harley Davidson.
After many weeks of training comes the final examination, taking apart and then re-assembling a randomly chosen Harley engine.
...He grabs his tools and sets to work, but soon he gets worried: while he is still working on the valve-covers, everybody else is already busy with removing the cylinder heads.
He falls more and more behind, and as he is just starting to put it all back together, everybody else is already finished.
He manages to put the engine back together, barely in time before the exam ends.
Because it took him so much longer than everybody else, he goes straight to the teacher to ask how he performed.
"Well," the teacher says, "out of one hundred possible points you scored 150." "But how is that possible?" the ex-gynecologist asks.
"Well, it breaks down to this: You get fifty points for correctly taking the engine apart. And you get another fifty points for putting it back together perfectly." "And what did I get those additional fifty points for?"
"For doing it all through the exhaust".

Bye the way, don't mistake bush mechanic for backyard mechanic. Beasts of an entirely different nature

Cheers

WARNING: This post contains traces of jokes so old they should be dead and buried.

[redbirds_imp]

I'll never be able in future to hear the term "bush mechanic" without "cracking" a smile.

[Tortuga_imp]

I always drain the oil as hot as possible. Not only will any contaminants be in suspension, but hot oil is thinner and will drain faster and more completely.

I have a special "oil change glove", which is actually just an old thick (oil soaked) leather work glove. I put it on to protect my hand from the hot oil when I unscrew the drain bolt.

Edit : Oh, I also don't torque the filter. Once the filter seats, it gets an extra half turn. Been doing it that way for decades and haven't had one leak yet.

Sounds reasonable. Being a bush mechanic, torque wrench for bearings, cylinder heads etc. and the rest by feel. So far so good (50yrs).

Cheers

Sounds reasonable. Being a bush mechanic, torque wrench for bearings, cylinder heads etc. and the rest by feel. So far so good (50yrs).

Cheers
"Bush mechanic". I like that.

We call them "Gynaecologists" or something.

What with me doing it by feel, and Flynrider not having had a leak for decades, this thread is out of control.

Love it, just love it. Speaking of which:

Gynaecologist becomes Motorcycle Mechanic
A successful gynaecologist decides to fulfill his life's dream: give up medical practice and become a motorcycle mechanic.
So he gets out of the medical business and enrolls at a mechanic's seminar with Harley Davidson.
After many weeks of training comes the final examination, taking apart and then re-assembling a randomly chosen Harley engine.
...He grabs his tools and sets to work, but soon he gets worried: while he is still working on the valve-covers, everybody else is already busy with removing the cylinder heads.
He falls more and more behind, and as he is just starting to put it all back together, everybody else is already finished.
He manages to put the engine back together, barely in time before the exam ends.
Because it took him so much longer than everybody else, he goes straight to the teacher to ask how he performed.
"Well," the teacher says, "out of one hundred possible points you scored 150." "But how is that possible?" the ex-gynecologist asks.
"Well, it breaks down to this: You get fifty points for correctly taking the engine apart. And you get another fifty points for putting it back together perfectly." "And what did I get those additional fifty points for?"
"For doing it all through the exhaust".

Bye the way, don't mistake bush mechanic for backyard mechanic. Beasts of an entirely different nature

Cheers

WARNING: This post contains traces of jokes so old they should be dead and buried.

What with me doing it by feel, and Flynrider not having had a leak for decades, this thread is out of control.

Love it, just love it. Speaking of which:

Gynaecologist becomes Motorcycle Mechanic
A successful gynaecologist decides to fulfill his life's dream: give up medical practice and become a motorcycle mechanic.
So he gets out of the medical business and enrolls at a mechanic's seminar with Harley Davidson.
After many weeks of training comes the final examination, taking apart and then re-assembling a randomly chosen Harley engine.
...He grabs his tools and sets to work, but soon he gets worried: while he is still working on the valve-covers, everybody else is already busy with removing the cylinder heads.
He falls more and more behind, and as he is just starting to put it all back together, everybody else is already finished.
He manages to put the engine back together, barely in time before the exam ends.
Because it took him so much longer than everybody else, he goes straight to the teacher to ask how he performed.
"Well," the teacher says, "out of one hundred possible points you scored 150." "But how is that possible?" the ex-gynecologist asks.
"Well, it breaks down to this: You get fifty points for correctly taking the engine apart. And you get another fifty points for putting it back together perfectly." "And what did I get those additional fifty points for?"
"For doing it all through the exhaust".

Bye the way, don't mistake bush mechanic for backyard mechanic. Beasts of an entirely different nature

Cheers

WARNING: This post contains traces of jokes so old they should be dead and buried.
Lol. Before I'd got to the second sentence I'd written my own punch line ...

"He found he was a natural Harley mechanic, as from his former training he was used to working on things that were frequently f***ed!

I'll never be able in future to hear the term "bush mechanic" without "cracking" a smile.

BUSH MECHANIC.

I love your English sense of humor Tortuga !
Benny Hill is still my all time favorite comedian.
We lived for seven years in Tunbridge Wells.

I was quite flattered by your first sentence!

Then you likened me to Benny Hill!!??

[Houtman_imp]

I always drain the oil as hot as possible. Not only will any contaminants be in suspension, but hot oil is thinner and will drain faster and more completely.

I have a special "oil change glove", which is actually just an old thick (oil soaked) leather work glove. I put it on to protect my hand from the hot oil when I unscrew the drain bolt.

Edit : Oh, I also don't torque the filter. Once the filter seats, it gets an extra half turn. Been doing it that way for decades and haven't had one leak yet.

Sounds reasonable. Being a bush mechanic, torque wrench for bearings, cylinder heads etc. and the rest by feel. So far so good (50yrs).

Cheers

Sounds reasonable. Being a bush mechanic, torque wrench for bearings, cylinder heads etc. and the rest by feel. So far so good (50yrs).

Cheers
"Bush mechanic". I like that.

We call them "Gynaecologists" or something.

What with me doing it by feel, and Flynrider not having had a leak for decades, this thread is out of control.

Love it, just love it. Speaking of which:

Gynaecologist becomes Motorcycle Mechanic
A successful gynaecologist decides to fulfill his life's dream: give up medical practice and become a motorcycle mechanic.
So he gets out of the medical business and enrolls at a mechanic's seminar with Harley Davidson.
After many weeks of training comes the final examination, taking apart and then re-assembling a randomly chosen Harley engine.
...He grabs his tools and sets to work, but soon he gets worried: while he is still working on the valve-covers, everybody else is already busy with removing the cylinder heads.
He falls more and more behind, and as he is just starting to put it all back together, everybody else is already finished.
He manages to put the engine back together, barely in time before the exam ends.
Because it took him so much longer than everybody else, he goes straight to the teacher to ask how he performed.
"Well," the teacher says, "out of one hundred possible points you scored 150." "But how is that possible?" the ex-gynecologist asks.
"Well, it breaks down to this: You get fifty points for correctly taking the engine apart. And you get another fifty points for putting it back together perfectly." "And what did I get those additional fifty points for?"
"For doing it all through the exhaust".

Bye the way, don't mistake bush mechanic for backyard mechanic. Beasts of an entirely different nature

Cheers

WARNING: This post contains traces of jokes so old they should be dead and buried.

What with me doing it by feel, and Flynrider not having had a leak for decades, this thread is out of control.

Love it, just love it. Speaking of which:

Gynaecologist becomes Motorcycle Mechanic
A successful gynaecologist decides to fulfill his life's dream: give up medical practice and become a motorcycle mechanic.
So he gets out of the medical business and enrolls at a mechanic's seminar with Harley Davidson.
After many weeks of training comes the final examination, taking apart and then re-assembling a randomly chosen Harley engine.
...He grabs his tools and sets to work, but soon he gets worried: while he is still working on the valve-covers, everybody else is already busy with removing the cylinder heads.
He falls more and more behind, and as he is just starting to put it all back together, everybody else is already finished.
He manages to put the engine back together, barely in time before the exam ends.
Because it took him so much longer than everybody else, he goes straight to the teacher to ask how he performed.
"Well," the teacher says, "out of one hundred possible points you scored 150." "But how is that possible?" the ex-gynecologist asks.
"Well, it breaks down to this: You get fifty points for correctly taking the engine apart. And you get another fifty points for putting it back together perfectly." "And what did I get those additional fifty points for?"
"For doing it all through the exhaust".

Bye the way, don't mistake bush mechanic for backyard mechanic. Beasts of an entirely different nature

Cheers

WARNING: This post contains traces of jokes so old they should be dead and buried.
Lol. Before I'd got to the second sentence I'd written my own punch line ...

"He found he was a natural Harley mechanic, as from his former training he was used to working on things that were frequently f***ed!

I'll never be able in future to hear the term "bush mechanic" without "cracking" a smile.

BUSH MECHANIC.

I love your English sense of humor Tortuga !
Benny Hill is still my all time favorite comedian.
We lived for seven years in Tunbridge Wells.

I was quite flattered by your first sentence!

Then you likened me to Benny Hill!!??

What with me doing it by feel, and Flynrider not having had a leak for decades, this thread is out of control.

Love it, just love it. Speaking of which:

Gynaecologist becomes Motorcycle Mechanic
A successful gynaecologist decides to fulfill his life's dream: give up medical practice and become a motorcycle mechanic.
So he gets out of the medical business and enrolls at a mechanic's seminar with Harley Davidson.
After many weeks of training comes the final examination, taking apart and then re-assembling a randomly chosen Harley engine.
...He grabs his tools and sets to work, but soon he gets worried: while he is still working on the valve-covers, everybody else is already busy with removing the cylinder heads.
He falls more and more behind, and as he is just starting to put it all back together, everybody else is already finished.
He manages to put the engine back together, barely in time before the exam ends.
Because it took him so much longer than everybody else, he goes straight to the teacher to ask how he performed.
"Well," the teacher says, "out of one hundred possible points you scored 150." "But how is that possible?" the ex-gynecologist asks.
"Well, it breaks down to this: You get fifty points for correctly taking the engine apart. And you get another fifty points for putting it back together perfectly." "And what did I get those additional fifty points for?"
"For doing it all through the exhaust".

Bye the way, don't mistake bush mechanic for backyard mechanic. Beasts of an entirely different nature

Cheers

WARNING: This post contains traces of jokes so old they should be dead and buried.
Lol. Before I'd got to the second sentence I'd written my own punch line ...

"He found he was a natural Harley mechanic, as from his former training he was used to working on things that were frequently f***ed!

I'll never be able in future to hear the term "bush mechanic" without "cracking" a smile.

BUSH MECHANIC.

I love your English sense of humor Tortuga !
Benny Hill is still my all time favorite comedian.
We lived for seven years in Tunbridge Wells.

I was quite flattered by your first sentence!

Then you likened me to Benny Hill!!?? Only if you also have all the great girls with you.

[Tortuga_imp]

I always drain the oil as hot as possible. Not only will any contaminants be in suspension, but hot oil is thinner and will drain faster and more completely.

I have a special "oil change glove", which is actually just an old thick (oil soaked) leather work glove. I put it on to protect my hand from the hot oil when I unscrew the drain bolt.

Edit : Oh, I also don't torque the filter. Once the filter seats, it gets an extra half turn. Been doing it that way for decades and haven't had one leak yet.

Sounds reasonable. Being a bush mechanic, torque wrench for bearings, cylinder heads etc. and the rest by feel. So far so good (50yrs).

Cheers

Sounds reasonable. Being a bush mechanic, torque wrench for bearings, cylinder heads etc. and the rest by feel. So far so good (50yrs).

Cheers
"Bush mechanic". I like that.

We call them "Gynaecologists" or something.

What with me doing it by feel, and Flynrider not having had a leak for decades, this thread is out of control.

Love it, just love it. Speaking of which:

Gynaecologist becomes Motorcycle Mechanic
A successful gynaecologist decides to fulfill his life's dream: give up medical practice and become a motorcycle mechanic.
So he gets out of the medical business and enrolls at a mechanic's seminar with Harley Davidson.
After many weeks of training comes the final examination, taking apart and then re-assembling a randomly chosen Harley engine.
...He grabs his tools and sets to work, but soon he gets worried: while he is still working on the valve-covers, everybody else is already busy with removing the cylinder heads.
He falls more and more behind, and as he is just starting to put it all back together, everybody else is already finished.
He manages to put the engine back together, barely in time before the exam ends.
Because it took him so much longer than everybody else, he goes straight to the teacher to ask how he performed.
"Well," the teacher says, "out of one hundred possible points you scored 150." "But how is that possible?" the ex-gynecologist asks.
"Well, it breaks down to this: You get fifty points for correctly taking the engine apart. And you get another fifty points for putting it back together perfectly." "And what did I get those additional fifty points for?"
"For doing it all through the exhaust".

Bye the way, don't mistake bush mechanic for backyard mechanic. Beasts of an entirely different nature

Cheers

WARNING: This post contains traces of jokes so old they should be dead and buried.

What with me doing it by feel, and Flynrider not having had a leak for decades, this thread is out of control.

Love it, just love it. Speaking of which:

Gynaecologist becomes Motorcycle Mechanic
A successful gynaecologist decides to fulfill his life's dream: give up medical practice and become a motorcycle mechanic.
So he gets out of the medical business and enrolls at a mechanic's seminar with Harley Davidson.
After many weeks of training comes the final examination, taking apart and then re-assembling a randomly chosen Harley engine.
...He grabs his tools and sets to work, but soon he gets worried: while he is still working on the valve-covers, everybody else is already busy with removing the cylinder heads.
He falls more and more behind, and as he is just starting to put it all back together, everybody else is already finished.
He manages to put the engine back together, barely in time before the exam ends.
Because it took him so much longer than everybody else, he goes straight to the teacher to ask how he performed.
"Well," the teacher says, "out of one hundred possible points you scored 150." "But how is that possible?" the ex-gynecologist asks.
"Well, it breaks down to this: You get fifty points for correctly taking the engine apart. And you get another fifty points for putting it back together perfectly." "And what did I get those additional fifty points for?"
"For doing it all through the exhaust".

Bye the way, don't mistake bush mechanic for backyard mechanic. Beasts of an entirely different nature

Cheers

WARNING: This post contains traces of jokes so old they should be dead and buried.
Lol. Before I'd got to the second sentence I'd written my own punch line ...

"He found he was a natural Harley mechanic, as from his former training he was used to working on things that were frequently f***ed!

I'll never be able in future to hear the term "bush mechanic" without "cracking" a smile.

BUSH MECHANIC.

I love your English sense of humor Tortuga !
Benny Hill is still my all time favorite comedian.
We lived for seven years in Tunbridge Wells.

I was quite flattered by your first sentence!

Then you likened me to Benny Hill!!??

What with me doing it by feel, and Flynrider not having had a leak for decades, this thread is out of control.

Love it, just love it. Speaking of which:

Gynaecologist becomes Motorcycle Mechanic
A successful gynaecologist decides to fulfill his life's dream: give up medical practice and become a motorcycle mechanic.
So he gets out of the medical business and enrolls at a mechanic's seminar with Harley Davidson.
After many weeks of training comes the final examination, taking apart and then re-assembling a randomly chosen Harley engine.
...He grabs his tools and sets to work, but soon he gets worried: while he is still working on the valve-covers, everybody else is already busy with removing the cylinder heads.
He falls more and more behind, and as he is just starting to put it all back together, everybody else is already finished.
He manages to put the engine back together, barely in time before the exam ends.
Because it took him so much longer than everybody else, he goes straight to the teacher to ask how he performed.
"Well," the teacher says, "out of one hundred possible points you scored 150." "But how is that possible?" the ex-gynecologist asks.
"Well, it breaks down to this: You get fifty points for correctly taking the engine apart. And you get another fifty points for putting it back together perfectly." "And what did I get those additional fifty points for?"
"For doing it all through the exhaust".

Bye the way, don't mistake bush mechanic for backyard mechanic. Beasts of an entirely different nature

Cheers

WARNING: This post contains traces of jokes so old they should be dead and buried.
Lol. Before I'd got to the second sentence I'd written my own punch line ...

"He found he was a natural Harley mechanic, as from his former training he was used to working on things that were frequently f***ed!

I'll never be able in future to hear the term "bush mechanic" without "cracking" a smile.

BUSH MECHANIC.

I love your English sense of humor Tortuga !
Benny Hill is still my all time favorite comedian.
We lived for seven years in Tunbridge Wells.

I was quite flattered by your first sentence!

Then you likened me to Benny Hill!!?? Only if you also have all the great girls with you.

What with me doing it by feel, and Flynrider not having had a leak for decades, this thread is out of control.

Love it, just love it. Speaking of which:

Gynaecologist becomes Motorcycle Mechanic
A successful gynaecologist decides to fulfill his life's dream: give up medical practice and become a motorcycle mechanic.
So he gets out of the medical business and enrolls at a mechanic's seminar with Harley Davidson.
After many weeks of training comes the final examination, taking apart and then re-assembling a randomly chosen Harley engine.
...He grabs his tools and sets to work, but soon he gets worried: while he is still working on the valve-covers, everybody else is already busy with removing the cylinder heads.
He falls more and more behind, and as he is just starting to put it all back together, everybody else is already finished.
He manages to put the engine back together, barely in time before the exam ends.
Because it took him so much longer than everybody else, he goes straight to the teacher to ask how he performed.
"Well," the teacher says, "out of one hundred possible points you scored 150." "But how is that possible?" the ex-gynecologist asks.
"Well, it breaks down to this: You get fifty points for correctly taking the engine apart. And you get another fifty points for putting it back together perfectly." "And what did I get those additional fifty points for?"
"For doing it all through the exhaust".

Bye the way, don't mistake bush mechanic for backyard mechanic. Beasts of an entirely different nature

Cheers

WARNING: This post contains traces of jokes so old they should be dead and buried.
Lol. Before I'd got to the second sentence I'd written my own punch line ...

"He found he was a natural Harley mechanic, as from his former training he was used to working on things that were frequently f***ed!

I'll never be able in future to hear the term "bush mechanic" without "cracking" a smile.

BUSH MECHANIC.

I love your English sense of humor Tortuga !
Benny Hill is still my all time favorite comedian.
We lived for seven years in Tunbridge Wells.

I was quite flattered by your first sentence!

Then you likened me to Benny Hill!!?? Only if you also have all the great girls with you.

Most of whom by now are probably dead over 70 or skanky crack whores.

It was the 70's