Tires ~ Converting tube to tubeless type.

[17-CB-002]

Hello everyone,
Mine is a 2017 CB1100 with spoke wheels.

I will soon need new tires and I am debating on converting my spoke tube type wheels into a tubeless style, thus using tubeless tires.

There is a kit by "Outex" that can do the job.

As per the U-tube video attached, it looked very easy and simple.

I am inquiring about longevity, safety and whether it is possible.

Had any member tried it?

Thanks Alain

Here's the link

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

Ingenious product. Thanks for sharing!

 

[Cormanus]

Alain, Aussieflyer is the resident Outex expert– http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1974&pid=130363#pid130363

I'm certain he's reported being very pleased with the result.

 

[peterbaron]

Hello everyone,
Mine is a 2017 CB1100 with spoke wheels.

I will soon need new tires and I am debating on converting my spoke tube type wheels into a tubeless style, thus using tubeless tires.

There is a kit by "Outex" that can do the job.

As per the U-tube video attached, it looked very easy and simple.

I am inquiring about longevity, safety and whether it is possible.

Had any member tried it?

Thanks Alain

Here's the link

If you are concerned about safety and legal requirements of your modification, first I would check with the MTO ....
... here are some of many different opinions from 2012 year :
Outex Tubeless Rim Kit - Don't Waste Your Money!
Has anyone tried this tubeless wheel conversion kit?
https://www.google.ca/search?source=hp&e...Nth8eeu9E0
Good luck with your project, ride safe

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

Alain, Aussieflyer is the resident Outex expert– http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1974&pid=130363#pid130363

I'm certain he's reported being very pleased with the result.

That Outex product solution looks pretty solid.

 

[17-CB-002]

Now the next question is:
What "Tubeless" size tires to select?
Any suggestion?

 

[Nortoon_imp]

Now the next question is:
What "Tubeless" size tires to select?
Any suggestion?

That would depend on what your riding style is: commuter, cruiser, adventurer, knee dragger, etc.

RevZilla sent me a news bulletin about tires today. Avon now have another line of tires for spoked wheels.

Triumph uses Avon tires on some of their Bonneville models. Canadas Fort Nine also sell Avon tires that fit the EX.

 

[Cormanus]

Aussieflyer, who has done the Outex conversion swears by his Metzlers. Pirelli Angel GTs with an oversize rear are well regarded. Lots of people have used the Michelin PR3 with both front and rear oversize. Pirelli Sport Demon and Bridgestone BT45s fit but are cross ply tyres.

 

[Rossi_imp]

eBay shows several different Outex kits. Does anyone know which one would be best for my cb?
Thanks

 

[17-CB-002]

eBay shows several different Outex kits. Does anyone know which one would be best for my cb?
Thanks

You have to give them your Rim size - My guess will be 18"
That's the only requirement.

Now the next question is:
What "Tubeless" size tires to select?
Any suggestion?

That would depend on what your riding style is: commuter, cruiser, adventurer, knee dragger, etc.

RevZilla sent me a news bulletin about tires today. Avon now have another line of tires for spoked wheels.

Triumph uses Avon tires on some of their Bonneville models. Canadas Fort Nine also sell Avon tires that fit the EX.

That would depend on what your riding style is: commuter, cruiser, adventurer, knee dragger, etc.

RevZilla sent me a news bulletin about tires today. Avon now have another line of tires for spoked wheels.

Triumph uses Avon tires on some of their Bonneville models. Canadas Fort Nine also sell Avon tires that fit the EX.
I thought the tires seating makes the difference for "spoke" wheels or other types?
Or is the rim bead curvature is mandatory for "Tube" or "Tubeless" type?

 

[17-CB-002]

According to Mr. T from Samurider, the correct part # is:
OUTEX kit for both Front and rear.
CB1100EX　DIDリム　前後セット　F18×2.50+R18×4.00 - バイクマフラー・バイク　パーツ　通販：OUTEX

Hope it helps
Alain

 

[Cormanus]

Alain, I assume you've also been following this thread.

 

[17-CB-002]

Thanks Cormanus.

Did review the thread, however, I am still a bit confused.

My confusion is: Can I directly & SAFELY use a tubeless tire on a rim designed for tube type tires?
Thanks

 

[Cormanus]

Alain, I can't answer that, but the experience of those members of the forum who have converted spoked rims is that you can. However, I suspect it requires that the bead around the wheel itself is sufficient to hold the tyre without its leaking or popping off. CA200 would know. So, too, may AussieFlyer. And, no doubt, others.

 

[Aussieflyer]

Alain,
our CB1100 spoked rims have safety bumps on the inside of the rim such that the tyre should not easily fall inside the rim ... which would be a huge issue for a tubeless tyre! These bumps are a slightly raised surface that runs around the rim inner just to the inside of the landing area where the tyre bead sits. This feature is a common method for the safe 'seating' of tubeless tyres. After sealing the spoke nipples in the rim a tubeless tyre should install and operate safely on these rims. I took the gamble and converted my spoke wheels to tubeless tyre a couple of years ago. So far no issues on the two sets of tyres I have used over the past 5 or 6 thousand Kms.

 

[Cormanus]

AF, what are your wheels? Are they CB1100 originals from the EX?

 

[Aussieflyer]

AF, what are your wheels? Are they CB1100 originals from the EX?

Yes mate they are originals off the EX model.

 

[Cormanus]

Likely to be the same for the ‘17 model methinks.

 

[17-CB-002]

Alain,
our CB1100 spoked rims have safety bumps on the inside of the rim such that the tyre should not easily fall inside the rim ... which would be a huge issue for a tubeless tyre! These bumps are a slightly raised surface that runs around the rim inner just to the inside of the landing area where the tyre bead sits. This feature is a common method for the safe 'seating' of tubeless tyres. After sealing the spoke nipples in the rim a tubeless tyre should install and operate safely on these rims. I took the gamble and converted my spoke wheels to tubeless tyre a couple of years ago. So far no issues on the two sets of tyres I have used over the past 5 or 6 thousand Kms.

Thanks, what Make/size tires did you use after the conversion?

 

[Venteuri_imp]

BUMP! ... I am waiting on the Outex thing to seal my rims. What size tires are you (outex tubeless conversion) using on the rear? I am thinking on staying with the 140/70 for safety concerns... but wonder if 160/60 is ok to use?