Houtman, while maybe cost is something Honda should consider, I’d have thought the thing they should really be sure of is that a range of tyres that fit the wheels is available.
Shinko 777 tires for my 2017 CB1100ex
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pekingduck
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While cost is always a consideration, a motorcycle manufacturer calls for a certain specification of what should work best when designing a bike, suppliers submit samples, they get tested and approved. They get installed on new bikes and a supply line is provided for those particular tires from those manufacturers as OEM replacements. That exact tire that the bike was designed for will be available from them.
Of course you can get cheaper/more expensive, better/worse tires in the same sizes. They can't control supply chains outside that. Tire manufacturers are always changing compounds/tread patterns/dimensions, or discontinuing/replacing a model or size.
A good example was a complaint of wobbling under certain conditions (like taking both hands off the bars!) on a touring bike when the OEM tire was replaced with the same brand/model/size from the aftermarket. The OEM replacements from the dealer didn't have that problem.
Of course you can get cheaper/more expensive, better/worse tires in the same sizes. They can't control supply chains outside that. Tire manufacturers are always changing compounds/tread patterns/dimensions, or discontinuing/replacing a model or size.
A good example was a complaint of wobbling under certain conditions (like taking both hands off the bars!) on a touring bike when the OEM tire was replaced with the same brand/model/size from the aftermarket. The OEM replacements from the dealer didn't have that problem.
When you say “That exact tire that the bike was designed for will be available from them” does ‘them’ mean the bike manufacturer or the tyre manufacturer? My Honda dealer could not get either of the OEM tyres as replacements when I first tried. Or were they avaialable from the tyre manufacturer.
pekingduck
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In the US, it means order from the dealer who orders through Honda parts. At least that's how it's supposed to work, and I know there are often backorders.Cormanus_imp said:
For tire manufacturers, OEM motorcycle supply is only a small fraction compared to the aftermarket, and nothing compared to car needs.
Nobody likes to storehouse anything anymore, relying on last-minute replenishment. Tire manufacturers, like just about every supplier, have their schedules full for months in advance. An order of 500 tires has to be squeezed into their production schedules.
Thanks pekingduck.
Chuckk_imp
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thanks duck ... I feel confident the tire will stay in place if I get a flat.. my biggest issue now, is fitting that 120/90/18 shinko777 under that front fender and having enough clearance to allow for expansion from centrifugal force and heat.. I will pull my front fender and see if there is any way to fudge on the clearance between the fender and tire.. wish me luck ..pekingduck_imp said:
Chuckk j.
GoldOxide_imp
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Good luck Chuck.
Chuckk_imp
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thanks G.O. .. I took a brief look at that fender a few days ago .. It may not be too easy to raise it up .. but it would be great if I could find a way..GoldOxide_imp said:
chuckk j.
GoldOxide_imp
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Is there even enough margin to raise it around the top of the lower fork component without going all custom?Chuckk_imp said:
Chuckk_imp
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Is there even enough margin to raise it around the top of the lower fork component without going all custom?GoldOxide_imp said:
let me pull it and see what my little brain can come up with.. haha ..
chuck j.
Chuckk_imp
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Is there even enough margin to raise it around the top of the lower fork component without going all custom?Chuckk_imp said:
let me pull it and see what my little brain can come up with.. haha ..
chuck j.
nice pic G.O. .. well, I have found the solution !! .. I was able to raise my front fender an inch higher .. I am in the middle of it and will send pics if Peter will help me, perhaps tomorrow.. sorry for being so helpless.. chuck j.[/b]
GoldOxide_imp
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Awesome Chuckk - good news indeed. Will wait for the collective response.
redbirds_imp
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The larger rear tire may give you clearance problems with the center stand.
Chuckk_imp
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to be honest, I have never thought about that !! .. I have seen where 150/70/18's and even 160's have been used.. each time I have eyeballed the rear tire for clearance the bike has been on it's center stand .. I am planning on using a Shinko 777 150/70/18 .. has anyone installed a 150/70/18 or wider, without having any center stand issues ? .. chuckk j.redbirds_imp said:
peterbaron
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let me pull it and see what my little brain can come up with.. haha ..
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. I am in the middle of it and will send pics if Peter will help me, perhaps tomorrow.. sorry for being so helpless.. chuck j.[/b]
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No problem, as long as I have'em and Imgur won't restrict number of edited or charge..
let me pull it and see what my little brain can come up with.. haha ..
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. I am in the middle of it and will send pics if Peter will help me, perhaps tomorrow.. sorry for being so helpless.. chuck j.[/b]
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No problem, as long as I have'em and Imgur won't restrict number of edited or charge..
Chuckk_imp
Been there
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let me pull it and see what my little brain can come up with.. haha ..
chuck j.[/b]
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. I am in the middle of it and will send pics if Peter will help me, perhaps tomorrow.. sorry for being so helpless.. chuck j.[/b]
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No problem, as long as I have'em and Imgur won't restrict number of edited or charge..
[/QUOTE] let me pull it and see what my little brain can come up with.. haha ..
chuck j.
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. I am in the middle of it and will send pics if Peter will help me, perhaps tomorrow.. sorry for being so helpless.. chuck j.[/b]
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No problem, as long as I have'em and Imgur won't restrict number of edited or charge..
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thanks Peter... coincidentally I was just browsing your posts, hoping to find a pic of my saddle bags you may have posted for me.. Goldoxide wanted to see a pic of my bags and led directionals.. I was then going to reference that post .. (like I really know what I am doing) .. chuckk j.[/b]
chuck j.[/b]
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. I am in the middle of it and will send pics if Peter will help me, perhaps tomorrow.. sorry for being so helpless.. chuck j.[/b]
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No problem, as long as I have'em and Imgur won't restrict number of edited or charge..
[/QUOTE] let me pull it and see what my little brain can come up with.. haha ..
chuck j.
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. I am in the middle of it and will send pics if Peter will help me, perhaps tomorrow.. sorry for being so helpless.. chuck j.[/b]
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No problem, as long as I have'em and Imgur won't restrict number of edited or charge..
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thanks Peter... coincidentally I was just browsing your posts, hoping to find a pic of my saddle bags you may have posted for me.. Goldoxide wanted to see a pic of my bags and led directionals.. I was then going to reference that post .. (like I really know what I am doing) .. chuckk j.[/b]
Houtman_imp
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Most of my tires are 150/70 and no problem at all
Chuckk_imp
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thanks houtman ... pics of my front fender modification will be coming soon.. building 2 small adaptor plates allowed me to raise the front fender on my 2017 1100ex by 1 inch.. this will allow clearance for the Shinko 777 120/90/18 .... the next step will be to convert my spoked rims, allowing me to run tubeless tires without using inner tubes.. chuckk j.Houtman_imp said:
peterbaron
Road warrior
Chuckk's project, not mine, just edit pics for him...
Hey Chuck, no RLETs =
Hey Chuck, no RLETs =
GoldOxide_imp
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. I am in the middle of it and will send pics if Peter will help me, perhaps tomorrow.. sorry for being so helpless.. chuck j.[/b]Chuckk_imp said:
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No problem, as long as I have'em and Imgur won't restrict number of edited or charge..
[/QUOTE] let me pull it and see what my little brain can come up with.. haha ..
chuck j.
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. I am in the middle of it and will send pics if Peter will help me, perhaps tomorrow.. sorry for being so helpless.. chuck j.[/b]
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No problem, as long as I have'em and Imgur won't restrict number of edited or charge..
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thanks Peter... coincidentally I was just browsing your posts, hoping to find a pic of my saddle bags you may have posted for me.. Goldoxide wanted to see a pic of my bags and led directionals.. I was then going to reference that post .. (like I really know what I am doing) .. chuckk j.[/b]
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Here is a forward reference Chuckk:
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=852&pid=229442#pid229442
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Interesting project result. So by slightly squeezing the fender near the middle (both sides), you were able to clear the forks, eh? Neat.
