Recall from HONDA

[jtopiso_imp]

I have got a letter from Honda. I have to go to the dealer, as there is a recall from HONDA.

It seems like there is something wrong with an original part. They will take mine and give me a new and corrected replacement.

At this point, you might be wondering:

-Which part? Does this affect my bike? Has something been wrong all this time and I haven't noticed yet? How can this happen?

Well... the part in question is: the user's manual. It seems there is a mistake on it.

My money is in the maintanace intervals. In my version (Spanish) it states no interval for valves check. Let's see what I get.

 

[Cormanus]

Can't wait to hear. It will be interesting to see whether the dealer tells you what is wrong with the original manual.

 

[itsme67_imp]

I have the check list for inspections from my Honda dealer (Germany) and it's clearly mentions the valve clearance every 8.000 miles.

I check the valves every 15.000 - 18.000 miles.
Adjusted only once (38.500 miles) and never more
(I rode the bike more than 100.000 miles in total till now)

BTW: the english version of the users manual mentiones the same
Our member kennyw linked the document in another thread:
Owner's Manual

 

[CBRider_imp]

The U.S. manual for my 2017 CB1100 EX shows 12,000 mile (19,200 km) inspection intervals.

 

[BamaRider_imp]

The U.S. manual for my 2017 CB1100 EX shows 12,000 mile (19,200 km) inspection intervals.

As does mine.

 

[jtopiso_imp]

I haven't got the new manual yet, but I have asked about what changes and they told me: "there is something wrong about the switches operation and something wrong in the maintainance intervals".

As I say, on my "old" manual, valve inspection interval is blank. Regarding switches operation, I guess they have clarified the trip computer operation, as it is easier to learn to use it by "try and see" than reading that encrypted section of the "old" manual.

 

[jtopiso_imp]

I have got the new manual.

I can only find differences in the inspection intervals: most were "blank" on the original, now they are filled in.

I'll try to post a picture, but as a surprise: the valve inspection interval is marked at 12000km (8000 miles).

I wouldn't be surprised if there is another recall for updated intervals.

 

[jtopiso_imp]

new (LHS) vs old (RHS).

New manual is printed in Japan. Old one is printed in China.

 

[The A-man]

Did anyone else notice that the oil change interval on these manuals is 8k miles? (Unless I read that table completely wrong). My 2014 DLX manual recommends changing oil ever 4k miles or 6 months. Curious, because I can't believe there's any substantive difference in these engines. Perhaps a case of the engineers relieving a spec that they felt was too conservative after logging many, many customer miles?

 

[SportsterDoc]

The book that came with my 2014 indicates 4,000 miles for oil change intervals on page 42.. The searchable PDF that I got on-line, published in 2012 for 2013 model indicates 4,000 miles for oil change intervals on page 39.

8,000 miles is the valve clearance check interval for up to 2014.

I see 8,000 in the Spanish version, posted above...strange.

 

[Cormanus]

I think you’re reading that right A-man. I wonder if Honda’s now recommending using fully synthetic oil?

 

[SportsterDoc]

I think you’re reading that right A-man. I wonder if Honda’s now recommending using fully synthetic oil?

Be interesting to see the section of that manual for recommended oil

 

[jtopiso_imp]

I'm on holiday, but I'll check when I'm back. Remind me if I don't.

From the top of my head, i think they recommend full sinthetic oil. 10w-40.

 

[SportsterDoc]

Jtopiso: Be interesting re synthetic, as the older manuals only indicate API SG or higher and no "energy conserving" or "resource conserving"...which would be a clutch slippage issue.

 

[jtopiso_imp]

Jtopiso: Be interesting re synthetic, as the older manuals only indicate API SG or higher and no "energy conserving" or "resource conserving"...which would be a clutch slippage issue.

API SG or higher. SAE 10W‐30, JASO T 903 MA
Don't use "energy conserving" or "resource conserving" oils.

I think the "MA" spec is the important thing for the cluth slippage.
Synthetic 10w-30 is what the engine cares about.