Gentlemen. I had a discussion with my friends the other day (who are all sport bike riders) and they told me they cannot purchase an aftermarket ECU, or even have their stock ECU remapped legally if you live in California. One guy said he wanted to send his Yamaha R6 ECU out to be remapped and was told that they could not do it because he lived in California. California passed a law that it is illegal to replace your stock exhaust unless the replacement exhaust is EPA certified. Do we have any California members who have had a problem getting their ECU remapped? I'm not even sure if it's legal for a shop here to remap a customer's street legal bike.
Performance Mods and California Law
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This doesn’t answer your question directly, but something’s afoot in the USA. See, http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=17315
E11even_Hunnit
Been there
I guess your buddies are technically right...
I must be quite the outlaw running my Full exhaust, Guhls flashed CB here in CA... if they come for me, they probably will have something to say about my off-roster Glock, not to mention it's factory mags :rofl:
California is a joke in more ways than one. If you're scared of potential consequences, keep the bike stock, and don't forget to abide to the 55MPH posted speed limit :biker:
I must be quite the outlaw running my Full exhaust, Guhls flashed CB here in CA... if they come for me, they probably will have something to say about my off-roster Glock, not to mention it's factory mags :rofl:
California is a joke in more ways than one. If you're scared of potential consequences, keep the bike stock, and don't forget to abide to the 55MPH posted speed limit :biker:
Phadreus_imp
Running like a top
I have noticed many, many websites which market aftermarket performance parts for motorcycles that have a map of the US with the State of California painted Red to indicate they will not ship to any California location.
What strikes me as ironic in this is for many decades of our history, California has been a hot spot for hot rod and custom builders.
What strikes me as ironic in this is for many decades of our history, California has been a hot spot for hot rod and custom builders.
GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
Sounds like CA is cracking down and businesses are being held more accountable for their participation in incompatible environmental practices. Sounds like the usual roll of policy evolution.Phadreus_imp said:
Phadreus_imp
Running like a top
Sounds like CA is cracking down and businesses are being held more accountable for their participation in incompatible environmental practices. Sounds like the usual roll of policy evolution. Yup. Question is how long before other states start adopting similar policies?GoldOxide_imp said:
My understanding is California is doing away with the red sticker registrations next year. For those of you who don't know what a red sticker is, it is an off-road registration sticker required to allow you to ride your non street-legal motorcycle on federal property (dessert, ORV trails). Several years ago they eliminated the "Green sticker" registrations. As soon as they realized the revenue they lost due to vehicle registration fees they created the "Red sticker" registration. The difference between the green and red stickers is with a green sticker registration you can ride your vehicle on federal lands 360 days/year, and with the red sticker registration you are limited to the days you can ride your vehicle on federal lands. Their justification is that some days the climate is more prone to damage by exhaust emissions, so you can't ride on these days. In reality, the red sticker registration was created to allow the state to continue to collect registration fees for all the off road vehicles, while appeasing the global warming advocates.
I lived in Cali. Moved out in late 2018. I owned a few bikes. All were modded. ECUs redone, exhausts, etc.
Technically a no no but then again no one looks. CHP , Deputies and Police have bigger worries than your extra loud guilded swallow killing motorcycle..
But it's gotten harder recently to get ECUs done. Stiff fines. But being in SoCal.. Especially Sandy Eggo? You can make some friends for sure. Exhaust stuff? I had to send my stuff to another state then have a friend send it to me. That was only for slip ons for my Valkyrie because the guy who built them was a weirdo. Almost all will send exhausts to Cali unless posted otherwise.
Bottom line? You're really not supposed to but not enforced. Trading in 99% of dealers don't even care and can claim ignorance. Is anyone gonna plug your bike into a computer and check? Heck no.
I know some Webelo here somewhere will pop out the woodwork and fearmonger and flash EPA links or CARB stuff and "AHA!!!" I don't care..
You'll be fine.
Technically a no no but then again no one looks. CHP , Deputies and Police have bigger worries than your extra loud guilded swallow killing motorcycle..
But it's gotten harder recently to get ECUs done. Stiff fines. But being in SoCal.. Especially Sandy Eggo? You can make some friends for sure. Exhaust stuff? I had to send my stuff to another state then have a friend send it to me. That was only for slip ons for my Valkyrie because the guy who built them was a weirdo. Almost all will send exhausts to Cali unless posted otherwise.
Bottom line? You're really not supposed to but not enforced. Trading in 99% of dealers don't even care and can claim ignorance. Is anyone gonna plug your bike into a computer and check? Heck no.
I know some Webelo here somewhere will pop out the woodwork and fearmonger and flash EPA links or CARB stuff and "AHA!!!" I don't care..
You'll be fine.
GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
What is that? Emission testing of motorcycles?rich_imp said:
GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
Yes, they have been doing this for years. "Legally", you cannot even tow your non-registered dirt bike in a trailer on a public road - I am NOT making this up!Dave_imp said:
:huh: That ... sounds ... unproductive.
GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
It won't be long before we're forced to ride electric motorcycles either.Dave_imp said:
... or nobody will be forced. The number of available gasoline stations will slowly be diminished.
Interesting piece on ADVRider, https://advrider.com/motorcycles-bypass-new-california-ecu-regulation/
pekingduck
Road warrior
Interesting article. Currently, California motorcycles do not undergo any emissions testing, likely because there is no current testing infrastructure, and not enough vehicles to warrant it. For one, it would require a separate smaller dyno. One that would have to accommodate between 15 and 200hp. And semi-knobby tires, and trikes, and sidecars fit on the dyno.Cormanus_imp said:
On-board diagnostics are fairly recent on motorcycles, and there has been no standard interface, so it will be a while before anything happens.
GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
I didn't see lawnmowers on the exemption list.Cormanus_imp said:
Whoops
Been there
I would guess that OEM’s will start selling a lot more à la carte ECU’s. Riders can keep a factory tuned ECU for the smog check and and a modified ECU for the remaining 364 days of the year.
