mvk24, I think I’ve deleted the Bosch 3300 filter as requested. Could you please confirm.
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Confirmed, thank you Cormanus.Cormanus_imp said:
2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
I agree for the most part as long as it spins on and creates a seal I don't think much can go wrong. I know there are some differences in quality such as the filter materials used, what the bypass valve is made of, and bypass valve PSI but I couldn't tell you which is better or worse.Houtman_imp said:
My only insight is that Honda isn't actually making the oil filters. The cheapest bidder makes the filters according to their specs. All kinds of other companies do this too (Subaru has changed oil filter manufacturing a few times) And as long as it is to their specs there shouldn't be a problem. I just tend to use brands that are more specialized in the product I need. Mobile 1, Fram, etc all they do is oil and filters.
I've used the Honda filters too but I just kinda got into a groove keeping the mobile 1 filters around. I dont think one is better or worse, that's just how I ended up doing it.
I know there are videos out there of guys cutting open every brand oil filter and comparing the filter materials and such but I've never watched them.
2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Houtman_imp
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I use the Mobil 1 oils but when it comes to oil filters I think that Honda is very careful as they are responsible for problems when THEIR name is on the oil filters and are than responsible for any safety/ wear issues .
1973cb750
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ive used Purolator in my bike for a long long time at least 20 years i like them oil is always clean when i change it it at 4k also i use full synthetic ams oil in everything i own but thats another rabbit hole to go down
the Ferret
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Isn't it like that with most everything?mvk24_imp said:
GoldOxide_imp
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I am impressed how little discussion there has been so far in regards to oil in this thread.
Good job team!
Good job team!
Nachodaddy
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It's a slippery slope . . .GoldOxide_imp said:
GoldOxide_imp
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It's a slippery slope . . .Nachodaddy_imp said:
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Gone in 60
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I don't know if you guys have seen these, but K&N puts a little nut on the end of their oil filters that makes them very easy to wrench on and off.
I just ordered a case of them.
I just ordered a case of them.
peterbaron
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:rofl::rofl: ... and use an impact gun with M17 socket to tightenGone in 60_imp said:
Gone in 60
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While we're on the subject, I've been sort of depressed lately. I ordered what I thought was Molly to cheer me up some.
Turns out I didn't read the product description completely, and got a box of Mahle oil filters. But, they fit both the Triumph and the 1100, so not a total loss.
Turns out I didn't read the product description completely, and got a box of Mahle oil filters. But, they fit both the Triumph and the 1100, so not a total loss.
As mentioned above those are horrible. I cab literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.Gone in 60_imp said:
2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Like Monty Python’s Brian, you, Mr Gone, are a very naughty boy.Gone in 60_imp said:
GoldOxide_imp
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Just one little nut, eh?Gone in 60_imp said:
Gone in 60
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Like Monty Python’s Brian, you, Mr Gone, are a very naughty boy.Cormanus_imp said:
Ahh, thank you for that reference. That cheered me up.
Tev62
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As mentioned above those are horrible. I cab literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.mvk24_imp said:
2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.
If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it.
Tev62, respectfully, it is an assumption on your part that the four friends tightened their K&N filters with the nut. If so, they may have deserved what they got. I can say that the one K&N failure that I witnessed was on the bike of a person who would not and did not make such a mistake. The product was faulty. I've no idea whether that is a common occurrence with filters of that design—I'd be surprised as K&N have been in business for a while—but it does seem to me obvious that the K&N filter, even installed properly, contains a possible point of failure that the OEM design simply does not.
In truth, I have no idea whether K&N filters are safe or not. Having seen one fail and spray oil over the muffler and the rear tyre, I will not willingly install one on my bike.
In truth, I have no idea whether K&N filters are safe or not. Having seen one fail and spray oil over the muffler and the rear tyre, I will not willingly install one on my bike.
As mentioned above those are horrible. I can literally name 4 friends that have a had those nuts strip/twist and had a nightmare shoving screw drivers through the filters to get them off.Tev62_imp said:
2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Then those four friends are to blame, regardless of whether there is a nut on top of the filter, they should of known there is no need to use a tool to overtighten an oil filter. If they didn't know that one wonders what else they might of ballsed up on their bike. You might suspect this is the same crowd who over-tighten the chain to and wonder why the output shaft bearing failed.
If they had bothered to read the K&N packaging it is touted as a "wrench-off" design, nothing to do with fitting it. As cormanus stated i am the only one that works out their bikes and I did the oil changes myself with the supplies they bought. This was on multiple different kinds of bikes. The nuts were faulty multiple times over the last 10 years or so I've had experiencewith them. I used one of those on my subaru when I first got it and had the same exact problem but luckily I could use a strap wrench to get it off because it isn't in a tight little area between pipes like on our bikes.
And yes I know an oil filter just goes on hand tight by hand because with use it will get tighter on its own..
2014 CB1100, 1981 KZ440 LTD, 1993 Yamaha XJ600 Seca, 1994 Yamaha XJ600 Seca
Gone in 60
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Oops, forgot to put the lid back on my gasoline can.
