oil filter cross threaded

[Cormanus]

Yeah, that's what I thought. But I hate taking those things out.

 

[Ulvetanna_imp]

Yeah, I didn't meant that Cormanus didn't care. Sorry about that. Cause he is a caring man

I just meant that since it is already damaged, you don't care if you damage it more removing it as it will then be replaced by a new one.

PS. Cormanus, its just a piece of threaded pipe that is screwed into a threaded hole in the crankcase.

I have to go to bed now, work tomorrow

Yep, it ain't a bolt. Replace it and don't use aftermarket filters.

 

[Pterodactyl_imp]

Yeah, I didn't meant that Cormanus didn't care. Sorry about that. Cause he is a caring man

I just meant that since it is already damaged, you don't care if you damage it more removing it as it will then be replaced by a new one.

PS. Cormanus, its just a piece of threaded pipe that is screwed into a threaded hole in the crankcase.

I have to go to bed now, work tomorrow

Yep, it ain't a bolt. Replace it and don't use aftermarket filters.

Yep, it ain't a bolt. Replace it and don't use aftermarket filters.
So after market filter threads cause or facilitate cross-threading? Bhwaaaaahahah.

Cheers

 

[Cormanus]

Yeah, I didn't meant that Cormanus didn't care. Sorry about that. Cause he is a caring man

I just meant that since it is already damaged, you don't care if you damage it more removing it as it will then be replaced by a new one.

PS. Cormanus, its just a piece of threaded pipe that is screwed into a threaded hole in the crankcase.

I have to go to bed now, work tomorrow

Yep, it ain't a bolt. Replace it and don't use aftermarket filters.

Yep, it ain't a bolt. Replace it and don't use aftermarket filters.
So after market filter threads cause or facilitate cross-threading? Bhwaaaaahahah.

Cheers

Yep, it ain't a bolt. Replace it and don't use aftermarket filters.
So after market filter threads cause or facilitate cross-threading? Bhwaaaaahahah.

Cheers
Oh, dear, see what fresh air does to you?

 

[Pterodactyl_imp]

Fresh air? No mate it was the second coldie at the Gloucester Bowls Club . And a strong sniff of bovine fecal matter. Let's start a Thread thread.

Cheers

 

[Randy B]

Beer and bull feces....having some fun, are you?

 

[Cormanus]

One often leads to the other.

 

[Matt F._imp]

I'm thinking you may be right about the replacement. It's the type of thing that will bug the heck out of me if it's not perfect. If I can find one of these locally and have it up and running by the weekend, that would make me happy. I doubt it though. Might go ahead and order it. You guys are wise. Thank you so much. My DIY confidence is nonexistent right now.

Remember... Going through repairs like this is where motorcycle maintenance confidence comes from. Stay patient and diligent until it's done right. By the time you're done you will have spent some quality time with your bike and gained knowledge as well :beerchug:

 

[TINK_imp]

I'm still baffled as to how one manages to cross thread an oil filter?
I've changed hundreds of oil filters and never once managed to cross thread one.
I suspect the filter threads were not the Honda pitch and perhaps were for another bike brand.
I seem to remember my Suzuki's had a unique thread pitch.

 

[CIP57_imp]

I'm still baffled as to how one manages to cross thread an oil filter?
I've changed hundreds of oil filters and never once managed to cross thread one.
I suspect the filter threads were not the Honda pitch and perhaps were for another bike brand.
I seem to remember my Suzuki's had a unique thread pitch.

Agree Tink, Had to be crossed when installing the K&N and the OP didn't notice the resistance on install. Change the bolt, once crossed as Randy said blowout would be nasty.

 

[Pterodactyl_imp]

KN204 installs without cross threading.

Cheers
However, a matter of very serious concern to me when I did my last oil change was the crush washer supplied by the dealer. The dealer was downright evasive when I asked if the washer, that outwardly seemed to be of the correct dimension (14mm), was fitted with an OEM hole. Rather than risk using an aftermarket hole I reinstalled the same crush washer that came with the new bike, some 70000kms ago. I felt that the hole on this washer would be OEM.

This whole hole matter has been an ongoing concern to me and is the reason that I chose an OEM rear rack rather than a Givi or other after market rack. The OEM rack is fitted with Honda holes thus ensuring a secure fit. So in the event of installing any after market accessories my strong recommendation is to insist that Honda holes are supplied with the item.

Cheers

 

[redbirds_imp]

KN204 installs without cross threading.

Cheers
However, a matter of very serious concern to me when I did my last oil change was the crush washer supplied by the dealer. The dealer was downright evasive when I asked if the washer, that outwardly seemed to be of the correct dimension (14mm), was fitted with an OEM hole. Rather than risk using an aftermarket hole I reinstalled the same crush washer that came with the new bike, some 70000kms ago. I felt that the hole on this washer would be OEM.

This whole hole matter has been an ongoing concern to me and is the reason that I chose an OEM rear rack rather than a Givi or other after market rack. The OEM rack is fitted with Honda holes thus ensuring a secure fit. So in the event of installing any after market accessories my strong recommendation is to insist that Honda holes are supplied with the item.

Cheers

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I'm still baffled as to how one manages to cross thread an oil filter?
I've changed hundreds of oil filters and never once managed to cross thread one.
I suspect the filter threads were not the Honda pitch and perhaps were for another bike brand.
I seem to remember my Suzuki's had a unique thread pitch.

They do indeed. They just wanted to make sure you get your filters from the authorized Suzuki dealer.

 

[SailorRider_imp]

You will have to jam two nuts together if you can get them started. The same for tightening up the new one.

unfortunately, if I could get the bolts on, I wouldn't have a problem. lol. It's apparent I'm not getting anything done tonight as it's getting dark. I think I'll look for the wife's Xanax and try to lower my blood pressure. I'm leaning towards the file/die solution because they don't appear to be too mangled. Admitting to my wife that I managed to screw up the bike she bought me the first time I tried to do anything to it will be another lesson in humility for me. Ugh. Thanks for all the replies guys.

unfortunately, if I could get the bolts on, I wouldn't have a problem. lol. It's apparent I'm not getting anything done tonight as it's getting dark. I think I'll look for the wife's Xanax and try to lower my blood pressure. I'm leaning towards the file/die solution because they don't appear to be too mangled. Admitting to my wife that I managed to screw up the bike she bought me the first time I tried to do anything to it will be another lesson in humility for me. Ugh. Thanks for all the replies guys.
JJ, Don't beat yourself up, we've all done things we wish we had not done on our machines. I won't tell you about the time I was winterizing my sailboat's diesel engine and I left the water intake hose in a bucket up high in the cockpit. Took a break for lunch and came back to find water had siphoned into the cylinders and was pouring out the air intake. Well I guess I just told you about it.

 

[Pterodactyl_imp]

JJ. That's good advice from Sailor. If I had a dollar for every one of my cross-threads I would fly over and give you a hand to fix the issue. Just do what the corporate boys do and "Drill down to the root causes, take the learnings from this so, going forward, you can build on these to ensure more positive outcomes from your oil and filter changes".

Cheers and good luck with it.

 

[Ulvetanna_imp]

KN204 installs without cross threading.

Cheers
However, a matter of very serious concern to me when I did my last oil change was the crush washer supplied by the dealer. The dealer was downright evasive when I asked if the washer, that outwardly seemed to be of the correct dimension (14mm), was fitted with an OEM hole. Rather than risk using an aftermarket hole I reinstalled the same crush washer that came with the new bike, some 70000kms ago. I felt that the hole on this washer would be OEM.

This whole hole matter has been an ongoing concern to me and is the reason that I chose an OEM rear rack rather than a Givi or other after market rack. The OEM rack is fitted with Honda holes thus ensuring a secure fit. So in the event of installing any after market accessories my strong recommendation is to insist that Honda holes are supplied with the item.

Cheers

Done that a few times, if the washer ain't crushed too much, crush it again.

On my track bike, I use a safety-wired drain plug which is another level of safety.
I will tell y'all one darn thing that I am OC-effin-D about.

Cross-threading.

I back off every single bolt or nut I install the opposite direction until I feel it "click" into the threads, and then I carefully, carefully begin to tighten it. Applies equally to valve stem caps, body panel fasteners, and spark plugs. You cross-thread a spark plug, or a cylinder head bolt...wow. I do the same with oil filters and while it sometimes drives me nuts because it takes several tries, I never worry about getting it cross-threaded.

 

[Toddman_imp]

I over torqued a spark plug when I was 10 years old...hasn't happened since on any bolt. I learned early.

 

[NightRider_imp]

I've decided my OEM Honda designed engine is not good enough for me. I know what is better for Honda motorcycles. Those idiot Honda engineers are fools. I'm replacing the four with an S&S V twin. It is a turnkey install except the bolts are different. Those S&S motors can use 5w50 oils which I know to be the best for riding on cool nights. I think I saw that spec in a Honda workshop manual for 2008 and earlier bikes, should still be good.

 

[Ulvetanna_imp]

I over torqued a spark plug when I was 10 years old...hasn't happened since on any bolt. I learned early.

You have been making far too much sense lately. Always one dude on every forum seems to see things my way lol.

 

[SUPERCRUZ_imp]

Just a suggestion. I recall Griots Garage catalogue online use to list a bolt thread chaser tool which might be ideal for this type of situation. I agree, replacing the filter mounting stud on the engine block is likely your best choice. If you can successfully chase the threads with the correct tool, you should be back in business. Good luck with it.

 

[Randy B]

Just a suggestion. I recall Griots Garage catalogue online use to list a bolt thread chaser tool which might be ideal for this type of situation. I agree, replacing the filter mounting stud on the engine block is likely your best choice. If you can successfully chase the threads with the correct tool, you should be back in business. Good luck with it.

The tool will cost more than the stud will.