Looking for some seat advice.

[DutchRutter]

Hello Everyone!

This coming riding season the wife and I are wanting to do some longer rides on the CB. So I'm looking to get a more comfortable seat. I've been relatively fine with the stock seat on trips less then an 2 hours straight but over that and I find my butt and lower back hurting. I believe I am fine with the seat height, I am about 5'8" with a 28" inseam so definitely shorter then most. Maybe I need a shorter seat then stock?

I was looking at Webike, and I prefer the flatter look of the K&H but I prefer the price and passenger rear hip stopper of the Daytona Cozy. I was hoping to get people's feedback on these two options. Which would be the more comfortable and practical for two up riding?
Does the K&H justify its premium price?
Are their any other complete seat options that I'm missing?
I know about the Corbin but I cant stand the way they look, so that's out.

Thanks.

 

[Nachodaddy]

I don't know about the K&H, but recently got a Daytona Cozy and really like it. I don't carry a passenger, so can't comment on that. I did have a Corbin, which was very comfortable, but hard and heavy. I was surprised that it was so comfortable since it was so hard. Got rid of it because I didn't like the way it looked.

 

[DutchRutter]

I don't know about the K&H, but recently got a Daytona Cozy and really like it. I don't carry a passenger, so can't comment on that. I did have a Corbin, which was very comfortable, but hard and heavy. I was surprised that it was so comfortable since it was so hard. Got rid of it because I didn't like the way it looked.

Thanks Nacho. I might bite the bullet and roll the dice on the K&H. The Daytona looks great but I love a flatter looking seat on these bikes. That price still stings though. From what I've read anything is an improvement over stock.

 

[The Gecko_imp]

@DutchRutter, I recently came across a bespoke report in a m/c paper. They sad one of the most frequent mistakes riders make after some perceived discomfort on the bike ... they think softer is better and go shopping. What really happens - they claimed - is this: a softer seat is often made of material which gets even softer after some warm up. So after a longer ride, in particular in summer, the new seat basically looses much of it's shape and the rider starts sliping forward towards the tank. Precious parts see a squeeze, pants get pulled in the wrong direction, and the overall rider's position is worse. The report came to the conclusion that many of the aftermarket seats create more problems than they solve.

 

[Charlie Bravo_imp]

When I had my second Sportster, I took the seat to a local auto upholstery shop and had more padding put into it. Since you're using the same pan, the cost is minimal and the results were great! The most comfortable seat I ever had was on the Suzi DL1000 I used to have. It had a bolster and a definite dish in the shape. I can't ride the CB for more than three hours, but I very rarely do that anymore.

 

[Tev62]

And you could also try Moto-Skiveez | Redefining Riding Comfort With Technical Base Layers I used these all the time on my 2016 Africa Twin which had the worst seat I have ever encountered on a motorcycle. Not as good as a well sorted seat I'm sure but they do help. Make sure you max out the rear preload if you are going to run two up for maximum compression stroke on that rear end.

 

[DutchRutter]

Thanks all!

@Tev I might end up picking up a set of those Skiveez just for the CRF450r. There have been some trips where those would have been real nice to have.

I definitely understand that a super plush/soft seat isn't such a great thing. I've had a few soft seats on our 4-wheelers that wore so quickly and poorly I ended up putting them back to stock. And really, I don't find the stock seat to be too stiff or too soft. I think its more of a positioning thing. I do suppose that I only have my CB and my buddies stock Yamaha Bolt R-spec for any reference on street bike comfort, at least for being the operator. Passenger, I grew up on the back of my dad's Shadow 1100 A.C.E. and then the Valkyrie Interstate when he traded in the Shadow.

After giving it some more thought, I'm wondering if I just need to get more long rides (1.5 hours+ straight) on the stock seat to really get the feel for just what is/was causing the discomfort. Since it only happened the one time all last summer, I'm starting to wonder if it was just a fluke on my part.

So far, we're planning a trip to the coast (1.5 hours one way) and a trip up to the mountains (2.5 hours one way). I'm sure there will be plenty of stretch/photo stops along the way, especially for the buddy on the bolt.

 

[Ollie]

Hello Everyone!

This coming riding season the wife and I are wanting to do some longer rides on the CB. So I'm looking to get a more comfortable seat. I've been relatively fine with the stock seat on trips less then an 2 hours straight but over that and I find my butt and lower back hurting. I believe I am fine with the seat height, I am about 5'8" with a 28" inseam so definitely shorter then most. Maybe I need a shorter seat then stock?

I was looking at Webike, and I prefer the flatter look of the K&H but I prefer the price and passenger rear hip stopper of the Daytona Cozy. I was hoping to get people's feedback on these two options. Which would be the more comfortable and practical for two up riding?
Does the K&H justify its premium price?
Are their any other complete seat options that I'm missing?
I know about the Corbin but I cant stand the way they look, so that's out.

Thanks.

I like Corbin seats but personally don't care for the pleated cover they have been using. But keep in mind Corbin will make the seat to your specification. I had them eliminate the hardware that the optional back rest fits into as I won't be using one. Also eliminated the stitching and pleats to make the seat look more stock.

Stock seat.


Corbin seating area is wider and doesn't have the forward slope down to the tank. The standard Corbin rider's bucket is about 1 1/2" further back than the stock bump which is just what I wanted. You probably will not.
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The stock seat wasn't horrible but positioned me a little too close to the tank, was a bit too soft, and narrow where I sat. I was OK for an hour or so on it. With the Corbin I can ride all day and never even think about the seat.

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

Ollie: Might rain water seep into the pleats of Corbin saddles?

 

[Ollie]

Maybe, it seems like more stitching and creases in the cover could. There's actually very little stitching on the top of my cover.

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

Maybe, it seems like more stitching and creases in the cover could. There's actually very little stitching on the top of my cover.

In regards to the backrest, that would have been for the rider, correct?

 

[peterbaron]

Hello Everyone!

This coming riding season the wife and I are wanting to do some longer rides on the CB. So I'm looking to get a more comfortable seat. I've been relatively fine with the stock seat on trips less then an 2 hours straight but over that and I find my butt and lower back hurting. I believe I am fine with the seat height, I am about 5'8" with a 28" inseam so definitely shorter then most. Maybe I need a shorter seat then stock?

I was looking at Webike, and I prefer the flatter look of the K&H but I prefer the price and passenger rear hip stopper of the Daytona Cozy. I was hoping to get people's feedback on these two options. Which would be the more comfortable and practical for two up riding?
Does the K&H justify its premium price?
Are their any other complete seat options that I'm missing?
I know about the Corbin but I cant stand the way they look, so that's out.

Thanks.

I like Corbin seats but personally don't care for the pleated cover they have been using. But keep in mind Corbin will make the seat to your specification. I had them eliminate the hardware that the optional back rest fits into as I won't be using one. Also eliminated the stitching and pleats to make the seat look more stock.

Stock seat.


Corbin seating area is wider and doesn't have the forward slope down to the tank. The standard Corbin rider's bucket is about 1 1/2" further back than the stock bump which is just what I wanted. You probably will not.
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The stock seat wasn't horrible but positioned me a little too close to the tank, was a bit too soft, and narrow where I sat. I was OK for an hour or so on it. With the Corbin I can ride all day and never even think about the seat.

I am OK with OEM seat but this looks and I think is a luxury type!
Ollie, I like everything you said here and the seat as well.
Any pics of the inner side, how it was stapled?
If I may ask for a total price, if not, send me PM, please.
TY

 

[Ollie]

I know standard they have a bracket built in to the rear for the passenger backrest but I'm not sure if they put one behind the rider's bucket or not? Mine has neither.

 

[peterbaron]

Do not care or need a bracket/hardware either!

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

I know standard they have a bracket built in to the rear for the passenger backrest but I'm not sure if they put one behind the rider's bucket or not? Mine has neither.

Yeah, I believe you can have it customized (for a fee, of course) to support the rider who need back support. But okay, yours did not have the option.

 

[DutchRutter]

@Ollie Now that is a great looking Corbin!

I'm quite surprised how removing the pleating and stitching changes the entire look, and for the better! I do think having a bit wider seat then stock would be good for both rider and pillion. I also do like how the Corbin narrows in front of the rider, and I believe a flatter seating position (less slopped forward) will benefit me and my comfort. Since I lost the lottery on height, I'm a bit nervous about changing the bucket position, but I could see keeping the stock location or maybe moving it forward a touch. I would also do the same and loose the back rest hardware, since I have a Givi box for a passenger backrest when needed.

I guess I have some thinking and bike sitting to do on this before pulling the trigger on one. Thanks for the ideas and opinions everyone, I really appreciate it!

 

[Ollie]

@Ollie Now that is a great looking Corbin!

I'm quite surprised how removing the pleating and stitching changes the entire look, and for the better! I do think having a bit wider seat then stock would be good for both rider and pillion. I also do like how the Corbin narrows in front of the rider, and I believe a flatter seating position (less slopped forward) will benefit me and my comfort. Since I lost the lottery on height, I'm a bit nervous about changing the bucket position, but I could see keeping the stock location or maybe moving it forward a touch. I would also do the same and loose the back rest hardware, since I have a Givi box for a passenger backrest when needed.

I guess I have some thinking and bike sitting to do on this before pulling the trigger on one. Thanks for the ideas and opinions everyone, I really appreciate it!

Then you should request Corbin move the bucket on their seat 1 1/2" forward for you. That'll be about where it is on the stock seat or maybe even a little closer to the tank. Standard Corbin bucket location which is what my seat is, is 1 1/4" rearward from stock.