Lame episode of NCIS LA

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Watched an episode of NCIS LA from the DVR where Deeks, who is recovering from PTSD from his torture at the hands of bad guys, comes to work on a Triumph Bonneville Steve McQueen special edition, and is informed by his co-workers that as an agent, he is not allowed to pursue such dangerous extra-curricular activities as riding a motorcycle.

Then Kensi goes on to quote the most significant cause of death among returning veterans is motorcycle accidents. So my wife and I are sitting there listening to this and I am thinking this is being a little over played and she is thinking about what her next husband will be like. :huh:
 
I remember a conversation with my insurance agent when I turned 50 and he told me He was no longer afraid of me dying in a motorcycle or car crash. Statistically at that point in my life I was far more likely to die of disease or organ failure ie heart attack.
 
Service men getting killed on motorcycles is epidemic and the military is taking pains to curb this.

My wife and I were watching that show at the same time; it did not help my cause at all. :@
 
meowguy_imp said:
Watched an episode of NCIS LA from the DVR where Deeks, who is recovering from PTSD from his torture at the hands of bad guys, comes to work on a Triumph Bonneville Steve McQueen special edition, and is informed by his co-workers that as an agent, he is not allowed to pursue such dangerous extra-curricular activities as riding a motorcycle.

Then Kensi goes on to quote the most significant cause of death among returning veterans is motorcycle accidents. So my wife and I are sitting there listening to this and I am thinking this is being a little over played and she is thinking about what her next husband will be like. :huh:
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An older rider who'd owned an Indian Chief for many years got married. One Sunday morning, as usual, he was out in the garage putzing with the bike; lubing, adjusting, polishing. His new wife came into the garage and said: "You spend all your time out here with that damn bike instead of me! When do I get some time? I think you like the motorcycle more than me...etc. etc. etc."

The rider waited until she finally shut up and said: "you know, for a minute there you sounded just like my ex-wife." She said: "What? I didn't know you were married before!"

He said: "I wasn't."
 
Guth_imp said:
Here's an article the breaks down motorcycle related fatalities and provides a link to the NHTSA Statistics document.

Hint: older guys that drink and ride bikes aren't doing so well.

What the latest NHTSA fatality statistics reveal about motorcycle safety
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Rboe_imp said:
Service men getting killed on motorcycles is epidemic and the military is taking pains to curb this.

My wife and I were watching that show at the same time; it did not help my cause at all. :@
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So after reading this, I think you can improve your chances by doing the following.
- Don't speed
- Don't drink and ride
- Wear a helmet
- Don't ride in Texas
- Don't get old
Then your chances are much better!
 
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From the NTSB:
Quote:However, the staggering number in all of NHTSA’s research is that of the 4,323 motorcyclists killed in 2011, 33% (1426) of the riders were under the influence of alcohol. That’s almost 1 in 3 fatal motorcycle accidents attributed to drinking and riding.
I take this to mean:
1. Don't drink and drive. It takes one hour to get one drink out of your system. Have three drinks and you have to go without for three hours before driving.
2. Wear a helmet.
3. Don't drive at night. (or the rain, snow, etc.)
4. Don't exceed the speed limit.
5. Don't assume a person making a left turn in your path sees you.
6. Take the MSF Safety Course even if you don't need to.
7. Stay the hell out of Texas. Man it's open season on bikers down there.

That about sums it up for me. I took the course and I got all that other stuff covered.

Honey, I'll be back later.
 
Its always struck me how the motorcycle community features alcohol at virtually every "ride-to" event. When I was doing the Harley thing, riding under the influence was the norm for me and my cohorts. Bike Week, local events, charity rides...90% of the activities were either at bars or the alcohol was on a beer truck.

As a Honda rider I'm much more responsible.
 
Peer pressure is a funny thing..and very powerful.
 
I believe this is part of the Population Control Program or better known as PCP (pun intended). The Local bar promotes Bike night once a week. Parking lot is full of bikes predominantly Harleys :) and this is a bar that is known for keeping the drinks rolling as long as you are standing. Not very responsible, but effective.
 
The ferret_imp said:
Statistically its car crashes with a 75% greater risk than general population.

http://autos.aol.com/article/returning-vets-in-frequent-car-crashes/

But these are generally young testosterone infused men, who have cheated death in war, and live life risky when they get back stateside. There are a lot killed in motorcycle crashes though.
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Interesting. I have not ridden a motorcycle in a year and a half. But by riding and getting old it has made me imo a better driver. My mentality even in my truck is to look 3 steps ahead to identify threats. I am constantly on the prowl mentally to see who is out to kill me and I think its from years of riding motorcycles. I cant seem to shake it and I think its probably a good thing.

Like so many, when I was a young man I was absolutely not like this and threw caution to the wind and just let it rip.
 
Rboe_imp said:
Service men getting killed on motorcycles is epidemic and the military is taking pains to curb this.

My wife and I were watching that show at the same time; it did not help my cause at all. :@
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This is a sad fact and as mentioned elsewhere in this thread the increased deaths are also seen in the statistics for automobile deaths. My understanding is that spikes in moving vehicle deaths by returning servicemen have been officially observed as early as WWII and anecdotally before that. There are many causes but the summary is that risky behavior and moving vehicles increase the chance of a significant accident and subsequent injury or death.

I think NCIS might have been trying to draw attention to this significant and old problem which continues to affect recently returning servicemen, though the way NCIS presented it certainly unfairly singled out motorcycles. I mention this because Donald Bellisario, the producer of NCIS as well as Magnum PI, JAG, and others, traditionally uses storylines and character development which subtly support the issues of servicemen.

It would have been preferable if NCIS had brought up this important issue without limiting it to motorcycles because by doing so it keeps us from understanding and mitigating the actual causes of the wider problem.
 
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