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Kawasaki to go all electric by 2035
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misterprofessionality
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I dont believe it for a second. They'll still have 7 bikes on the roster using the Ninja 650 motor.
clearviewx
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All they are doing is creating another waste with these
batteries that commerce doesn’t know how to deal with!
batteries that commerce doesn’t know how to deal with!
GoldOxide_imp
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Maybe by then someone would have figured out how to safely harness a small fusion reaction.clearviewx_imp said:
tod.branko_imp
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I'm not buying this for a moment. Unless some of these countries ban sales of new ICE, which leaves them without a choice. But I'm not taking this article seriously because there is no quote of reference, it's hearsay
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Whoops
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A quick Google search shows the news across numerous outlets. Few of them reference the source, but this news comes from the latest Kawasaki Business Policy Briefing recently released by Kawasaki. You can find that briefing here. Page 16 specifically states their goal to be all electric by 2035.tod.branko_imp said:
https://global.kawasaki.com/news_211006-1e.pdf
tod.branko_imp
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A quick Google search shows the news across numerous outlets. Few of them reference the source, but this news comes from the latest Kawasaki Business Policy Briefing recently released by Kawasaki. You can find that briefing here. Page 16 specifically states their goal to be all electric by 2035.Whoops_imp said:
https://global.kawasaki.com/news_211006-1e.pdf Thank you for this link Whoops. It's an interesting read, something of a political campaign promises type of a document, some real stuff, some virtue signaling, but all in all set the necessary goals and vision for future.
Page 16 in this specific case it doesn't state going "all electric". It says BEV/HEV with all "major models for developed countries". Keywords "HEV" - Hybrid Electric Vehicles, which by definition include an ICE. And "major" - meaning in this context - not all. So things get taken out of context for journalistic sensationalism. They also say they will introduce "at least 10 models by 2025, which is a short 4 years away, an depending on those, imo, we will have a better indication of feasibility of going electric with all major models by 2035.
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Indeed. When you hear a company peddling a line like this “Build a business that's about selling happiness, not things”, you know that the message is more marketing than substance.tod.branko_imp said:
GoldOxide_imp
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Honda already has available the PCX150 Hybrid scooter. Not available in North American yet, but they appear to be executing on their "electric road map" ...
misterprofessionality
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oof...hybrid? that doesn't seem practical for motorcycles. i mean, it was an effective stopgap for the auto industry as we all wait for viable electric cars, but I can see a kind of "malaise" era for gas motorcycles coming onto the horizon. The thing that gets me onto electric bikes may simply be the lack of any good gas bikes on the market, just as the malaise era of american autos drove people into smaller japanese cars.
GoldOxide_imp
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Some would argue "overkill", especially given the regular Honda PCX150 gets 100 U.S. mpg. In an entering era of "zero emissions", Honda is there to transcend the gap.misterprofessionality_imp said:
Gone in 60
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2035 seems like a magic number. Supposedly California is going to be selling only zero-emission vehicles by 2035. That's a heck of a lot of infrastructure that has to be put in place in 14 years to make any of it happen on a mass scale. A lot can happen in 14 years, and as far as motorcycles go, if they are priced at the equivalent of what a gas bike will be going for by then, with comperable range and power, and electricity doesn't cost more than gasoline, and we haven't been wiped out by a meteor, and I haven't been killed by falling off of a ladder, and my bladder will allow me to sit on a motorcycle for more than ten minutes, and we can still lane split in California, and China hasn't blown us up, and zombies aren't real.... I'll be ok with it.
Whoops
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Didn't somebody post in another thread that the EU proposed a ban on all gasoline engines by 2035 also? I wonder if Kawasaki is just lining up with that number so as to be among the first on the bandwagon.Gone in 60_imp said:
peterbaron
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Didn't somebody post in another thread that the EU proposed a ban on all gasoline engines by 2035 also? I wonder if Kawasaki is just lining up with that number so as to be among the first on the bandwagon.Whoops_imp said:
Is far as I recall, no new car production with gasoline engine as of 2035 in EU.
Don't think it concerns m/c ?
Nachodaddy
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I will be 95 in 2035, so I probably won't be too worried about it. Good luck to you youngsters who will only be in your 70s.
GoldOxide_imp
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Didn't somebody post in another thread that the EU proposed a ban on all gasoline engines by 2035 also? I wonder if Kawasaki is just lining up with that number so as to be among the first on the bandwagon.peterbaron_imp said:
Is far as I recall, no new car production with gasoline engine as of 2035 in EU.
Don't think it concerns m/c ?
no more new internal combustion engines
Houtman_imp
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My personal view is that electric cars/bikes only will be decades away : many parts of the world do not even produce enough electricity to keep the lights on in their Country.
We could just use the electric car headlights to read by.Houtman_imp said:
Houtman_imp
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We could just use the electric car headlights to read by.pdedse_imp said:We could just use the electric car headlights to read by.Houtman_imp said:
You are right ! , I did not even think about that !
peterbaron
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We could just use the electric car headlights to read by.Houtman_imp said:We could just use the electric car headlights to read by.pdedse_imp said:We could just use the electric car headlights to read by.Houtman_imp said:
You are right ! , I did not even think about that ! ...and don't forget, no valve adjustments using shims ++
