How Are New Bikes Handle Bars Positioned

[Aka Tsubasa_imp]

Just curious how set up techs know where to put our handlebars and controls when seting up our bikes for the first time. Do the bars have dimples like old bikes or is it all personal taste in positioning?

 

[pekingduck]

Just curious how set up techs know where to put our handlebars and controls when seting up our bikes for the first time. Do the bars have dimples like old bikes or is it all personal taste in positioning?

There are always dimples in the bars to line up with the handlebar clamps. The CB1100 comes with the switches and controls on the bars properly aligned at the factory. The dealer just bolts the handlebars on, aligns the dimples, and puts the mirrors on.

 

[Lord Popgun]

They aren't fixed in one spot though. You can move them in the clamps some and a few have reversed the mounts to move the bars back some.

 

[the Ferret]

The CB comes in pretty much all assembled at the factory

 

[Aka Tsubasa_imp]

The CB comes in pretty much all assembled at the factory

That is a sweet picture. Thanks! Almost every other one I have seen looked as if the handlebars had to be installed at the dealer. With the last bike I bought, the dealer tech put on the bars and really made a mess of things. I would be thrilled if the 2017 CB1100 EX only needed the mirrors installed.

 

[Lord Popgun]

Sorry to dissapoint Aka, but they have to install the battery too... .

 

[Aka Tsubasa_imp]

Sorry to dissapoint Aka, but they have to install the battery too... .

Got a good chuckle from that one. Thanks.
I wonder if the mirrors can be adjusted at the base without loosening the locknut? My Z1000 had a great feature that would allow the mirror stalk to be pushed back and forth after the jam nut was set. One had to push pretty hard to make an adjustment but is worked slick.

 

[pekingduck]

Sorry to dissapoint Aka, but they have to install the battery too... .

Got a good chuckle from that one. Thanks.
I wonder if the mirrors can be adjusted at the base without loosening the locknut? My Z1000 had a great feature that would allow the mirror stalk to be pushed back and forth after the jam nut was set. One had to push pretty hard to make an adjustment but is worked slick.

Got a good chuckle from that one. Thanks.
I wonder if the mirrors can be adjusted at the base without loosening the locknut? My Z1000 had a great feature that would allow the mirror stalk to be pushed back and forth after the jam nut was set. One had to push pretty hard to make an adjustment but is worked slick.
The mirror stalks have a left hand thread that goes into an adapter that has left-hand female threads and right-hand male threads. The adapter is first tightened into the master cylinder mount, the mirror stalks are adjusted, and secured into the adapter with a lock nut (left-hand).
All this is for safety. If you were to hit something immovable (let's say, a pedestrian, a car mirror, or a tree branch) the mirror stalk would be able to rotate back by loosening at one of the sets of threads. The left mirror would loosen (or break away) at the bottom of the adapter, the right mirror would loosen at the top of the adapter. Other brands use a mirror mount that has a friction "clutch" that allows it to move either direction, like your Z1000.

 

[Cormanus]

And very handy the reverse thread is too. I hit a bird once with my right-hand mirror. Aside from the front being a wee bit messy, the mirror simply turned out of the way and was fine. If the bird had pushed against the thread, I suspect its weight plus my speed would have resulted in a broken mirror.

 

[BestStandard_imp]

The '13s came in narrow crates with the handlebars removed:

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The '14s were in wider crates and came fully assembled except for the mirrors. The batteries on the '14s were factory filled and installed, but the battery cables were disconnected and hanging out below the left side cover.

 

[Aka Tsubasa_imp]

The '13s came in narrow crates with the handlebars removed:

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The '14s were in wider crates and came fully assembled except for the mirrors. The batteries on the '14s were factory filled and installed, but the battery cables were disconnected and hanging out below the left side cover.

Makes sense. Thanks! I bet many were unhappy with dealer setup and Honda's answer was to install the bars at the factory.

 

[pekingduck]

The '13s came in narrow crates with the handlebars removed:

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The '14s were in wider crates and came fully assembled except for the mirrors. The batteries on the '14s were factory filled and installed, but the battery cables were disconnected and hanging out below the left side cover.

2013 batteries were also factory filled but not connected.

 

[Lord Popgun]

What does factory filled mean? The batteries are AGM and sealed.

If it came in the bike but not connected, I know it has to come out for the dealer to install the lifting strap. I had to install mine as they forgot and just put it in the tool box. The service manager wasn't exactly happy with the mech when he found that out

 

[the Ferret]

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wonder how they snag the pics? 4th row down on right bike with luggage is my bike, 5th row down white bearded guy sitting on bike is me (picking up my 13), 12th row down guy standing by bike is me (picking up my 14 dlx)

 

[pekingduck]

What does factory filled mean? The batteries are AGM and sealed.

If it came in the bike but not connected, I know it has to come out for the dealer to install the lifting strap. I had to install mine as they forgot and just put it in the tool box. The service manager wasn't exactly happy with the mech when he found that out

We are used to the AGM batteries that are shipped with a battery pack that gets filled and charged (YTX series), but our original battery (YTZ14s) is filled, sealed, and charged by Yuasa. It is shipped in the bike with the lifting strap around it, but if it is taken out to charge, the strap can be lost.

Since that battery is used on several Honda models, some (better) dealers will keep one on charge for that quick sale, and rotate it into a bike with a low battery, so the strap is easily overlooked.

As far as I know, only our CB1100 uses the strap. If by chance yours does not have the strap on it, you can take off the left sidecover and sort of push up on the bottom of the battery by moving the rubber flap under the battery box.

Something else curious - a lot of new Hondas use batteries that are the exact same size, but have different cranking power and amp ratings. Some are factory filled, some come with acid packs. The higher powered ones not only cost more, they can weigh a pound and a half more.

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wonder how they snag the pics? 4th row down on right bike with luggage is my bike, 5th row down white bearded guy sitting on bike is me (picking up my 13), 12th row down guy standing by bike is me (picking up my 14 dlx)

Found the pictures. Somehow I had imagined a ferret as a small, slim, agile creature, but must be mistaken. That person was shaped more like me.

 

[ohiorider_imp]

About 4 years ago, I innocently mentioned I'd purchased an AGM battery (Yuasa) and was waiting for the dealer to add acid and bring the battery to full charge. Response from another forum. "If the dealer is adding acid and charging the battery, they didn't sell you an AGM battery, which comes fully charged and ready to use."

Rather than get into a debate on the forum, (not CB1300) I contacted Yuasa and indicated the discussion forum members were having. Here's the Yuasa response,which you may find interesting.
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To summarize our conversation on lead-acid engine starting batteries ….
There are basically 2 kinds.
Conventional / Flooded: the type with individual removable filler caps, and a vent elbow / tube.
These batteries are typically see-thru so you can see what level the acid needs to be maintained to.
Only water evaporates. Acid can not evaporate. Thus why you only have to add water back into the mix.
and
AGM (Maintenance-Free): acid is Absorbed in the Glass Mat separators, and battery is sealed to the outside air.
Water never evaporates in this type of battery, thus why fluid never needs to be replenished. Furthermore the battery will be destroyed if you try.
These batteries are typically all black. They do contain acid, but they can be manufactured one of 2 ways from Yuasa…
Dry Charged; this is where the plates are activated at the factory, but then dried. The battery is supplied with a separate metered acid pack to use where you are ready to activate the battery for use in your vehicle.
You fill it, you SEAL it .. charge it 100% and you are done.
The other way we supply these batteries, in some cases is…
Factory Activated; this means we fill the acid here, and seal it for you. It is ready to go when you buy it. Only caution is age. When sitting around already activated somebody needs to make sure older product is rotated, and charged when need be, to prevent these batteries being useless when finally put in a vehicle. Some manufacturers only make Factory Activated because they do not have the ability to Dry Charge.
These batteries are not referred to as GEL.
GEL is used for deep cycle applications (trolling motors and wheelchairs)

Any questions, always feel free to call us, toll-free at 866-431-4784

Technical / Product Support Department
Yuasa Battery Inc.

 

[Tim_in_AZ_imp]

I learned something new today. I hate it when that happens.

 

[BestStandard_imp]

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wonder how they snag the pics? 4th row down on right bike with luggage is my bike, 5th row down white bearded guy sitting on bike is me (picking up my 13), 12th row down guy standing by bike is me (picking up my 14 dlx)

Ferret, tap on one of your pictures to enlarge it and you'll see that Google Search snagged it from the ST-Owners forum. You can then click Visit Page to see exactly where it came from.
Did you ever wonder how Santa and his helper hauls and delivers all those toys whenever Rudolph is sick:

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[the Ferret]

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wonder how they snag the pics? 4th row down on right bike with luggage is my bike, 5th row down white bearded guy sitting on bike is me (picking up my 13), 12th row down guy standing by bike is me (picking up my 14 dlx)

Found the pictures. Somehow I had imagined a ferret as a small, slim, agile creature, but must be mistaken. That person was shaped more like me.
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I used to be small, quick and light..wrestled 105 pound class as a senior in high school, was on gymnastic team and ran cross country. That was 48 years ago. Get married, quit playing sports, have kids, finish all their meals, sit at a desk or behind the wheel for 40 years, grow old, have grandkids, finish all their meals when they are here.. and wala.. a more appropriate name would probably be Sloth instead of Ferret these days

 

[BestStandard_imp]

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wonder how they snag the pics? 4th row down on right bike with luggage is my bike, 5th row down white bearded guy sitting on bike is me (picking up my 13), 12th row down guy standing by bike is me (picking up my 14 dlx)

Ferret, tap on one of your pictures to enlarge it and you'll see that Google Search snagged it from the ST-Owners forum. You can then click Visit Page to see exactly where it came from.
Did you ever wonder how Santa and his helper hauls and delivers all those toys whenever Rudolph is sick:

Google Search:

Ferret, tap on one of your pictures to enlarge it and you'll see that Google Search snagged it from the ST-Owners forum. You can then click Visit Page to see exactly where it came from.
Did you ever wonder how Santa and his helper hauls and delivers all those toys whenever Rudolph is sick:

Google Search:
Ooops wrong link... here's Santa finishing his run:

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