ClassicVW_imp
Road warrior
I wouldn't normally recommend this, but go for a ride without any jacket. Both your jackets could be the problem. If they are a little too big for you air gets inside and blows you all over the place.
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kennyw
Road warrior
That was my first thought too but he mentioned trying a couple more jackets already.ClassicVW_imp said:
Townie_imp
Running like a top
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Definitely. I will try this.ClassicVW_imp said:
Both of my bike jackets are a bit loose, definitely not snug. I'm fairly lean, so I find if I get something sized so its snug in the body, then the sleeves are too short.
If the lack of snugness of the jacket is part of the problem, well then, it might be that excuse to look at the Dainese stuff! That stuff is nice, but a bit spendy.
Kenny, I haven't tried any other jackets yet, just the 2 bike jackets I have.
ClassicVW_imp
Road warrior
That was my first thought too but he mentioned trying a couple more jackets already.kennyw_imp said:
Yeah, we all buy different jackets but the way I figure it, they are all usually the same fitment, so, if one's too large, chances are another may be too.
Townie_imp
Running like a top
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An update:
Today were good conditions to test some of your suggestions. Temperature was 32degC, and ambient winds were 20 kph.
I tried just a snug fitting T-shirt (ie. no jacket). Big improvement, and I could easily cruise at 100 kph. I pushed things up to 130kph, and "dispatched" a few minivans (you're right, the dirty air from those is brutal). Bike felt planted, but now I was feeling the need to "hang on".
Interestingly at 130 kph I felt my head being buffeted around. So I returned home, and swapped my usual Shoei RF1200 for my Bell Star. Decent improvement again when using the Bell Star.
I bought the RF1200 because the wind noise inside the Bell Star is horrendous. Even with ear plugs that thing makes my ears ring after a ride. But it seems to buffet less at high speeds.
Thanks for all your suggestions. I'll have to see what snug fitting jackets I can find when things go on sale this fall! Not sure what I'm going to do about the helmets yet.
Today were good conditions to test some of your suggestions. Temperature was 32degC, and ambient winds were 20 kph.
I tried just a snug fitting T-shirt (ie. no jacket). Big improvement, and I could easily cruise at 100 kph. I pushed things up to 130kph, and "dispatched" a few minivans (you're right, the dirty air from those is brutal). Bike felt planted, but now I was feeling the need to "hang on".
Interestingly at 130 kph I felt my head being buffeted around. So I returned home, and swapped my usual Shoei RF1200 for my Bell Star. Decent improvement again when using the Bell Star.
I bought the RF1200 because the wind noise inside the Bell Star is horrendous. Even with ear plugs that thing makes my ears ring after a ride. But it seems to buffet less at high speeds.
Thanks for all your suggestions. I'll have to see what snug fitting jackets I can find when things go on sale this fall! Not sure what I'm going to do about the helmets yet.
gbpack89_imp
Running like a top
I can say out of the 4 CBs i have had the 1100 is by far the most solid at any speeds. And do to the geometry and weight seems to handle the dirty air on all the highways around me. I usually travel between 70 and 80 mph.
One of my older CBs had a lowered and ridged rear suspension and a questionably balanced front spoke wheel. That bike would get a unstable at around 75. If you pulled back and forth on the bars it would keep wiggling. In that case the problem was with the bike for sure
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One of my older CBs had a lowered and ridged rear suspension and a questionably balanced front spoke wheel. That bike would get a unstable at around 75. If you pulled back and forth on the bars it would keep wiggling. In that case the problem was with the bike for sure
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Inhouse Bob
Road warrior
I was thinking about your dilemma the other day while riding. I usually have a windscreen installed and so don't get much buffeting at any speed. But that day I had removed it, so I paid attention. At less than 50 MPH, everything was smooth and I felt quite comfortable. At 55-65, I felt a lot of buffeting from wind and passing trucks. But when I thought it through, I could tell that the bike was stable. It was just me being pushed around. At 80mph, I was just working hard to hold on and didn't have time to think about what the bike was doing. I may need to put on some weight.
danielquin_imp
First service completed
I will say that I have experienced unsettling buffeting at highway speeds (75-80 mph) I am an inexperienced rider compared to most, I suppose, and will also try the t-shirt option just to check, but boy do I hate riding without gear even for a test.
Pterodactyl_imp
Road warrior
Townie, Daniel, gripping the tank with your knees may help you feel a little more secure. Makes you one with the bike, which is a very stable machine. Works for some.
Cheers
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Hi there - I'm the guy who recently posted about this same thing, having recently switched from an 07 Bonneville to the CB1100 DLX. I couldn't believe what a wrestling match it was for me just to keep the wind pressure from yanking me back and forth like a rag doll on the freeway. As an earlier post said, I found significant relief by closing my jacket vents, especially at the sleeve openings. But it did not completely cure it. At speeds above 65, it still often felt like so much wind was coming up under my helmet that I was nearly being choked by the chin strap. So odd...never had anything like that happen on the Bonnie, even on a 10,000 mile trip across the US in all kinds of weather and insane wind at times. BUT....Townie_imp said:
...fast forward to this past weekend, after I installed a newly ordered Road Comet II. All I can say is that it completely eliminated the back and forth tugging, and the intense helmet lifting I was feeling over 65mph (I run a Shoei RF1200 as well...nice helmet!) I went for an extended ride yesterday, and when I thought I could get a way with it, I pushed the bike up much faster than the law would normally allow. Even up near the "ton" there was no helmet lift, and the side to side wrestling match was absolutely gone. That's at normal seating position. In a tuck behind the screen (I got the normal height, not the touring screen), it's absolutely silent and still, almost like you're not even moving.
So there you have it. The final cure for me was the spendy but beautiful (in my eyes) Road Comet II. I agree with other comments as well that a very relaxed grip on the bars and hugging the tank with your knees at all times also make a big difference. I'll be honest...the day I rode the CB home for the first time (on the freeway, mind you), I was asking myself "oh god, what have I done???" All my worries about wind management are gone now...all smiles from here on out.
I hope that helps. - kvdv
danielquin_imp
First service completed
I do grip the tank with my knees, I probably don't have quite a loose enough grasp of the grips on the highway just because I do feel like I'm being blown around sometimes. I will keep playing with it.
Townie_imp
Running like a top
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Thanks for testing this Bob! Your experience is pretty close to mine.Inhouse Bob_imp said:
So, maybe something I need to seriously consider is a windscreen larger than the Dart. I like the look of the Dart, so maybe my screen #2 is what I mount when long highway runs are planned.
Hi there - I'm the guy who recently posted about this same thing, having recently switched from an 07 Bonneville to the CB1100 DLX. I couldn't believe what a wrestling match it was for me just to keep the wind pressure from yanking me back and forth like a rag doll on the freeway. As an earlier post said, I found significant relief by closing my jacket vents, especially at the sleeve openings. But it did not completely cure it. At speeds above 65, it still often felt like so much wind was coming up under my helmet that I was nearly being choked by the chin strap. So odd...never had anything like that happen on the Bonnie, even on a 10,000 mile trip across the US in all kinds of weather and insane wind at times. BUT....kvdv_imp said:
...fast forward to this past weekend, after I installed a newly ordered Road Comet II. All I can say is that it completely eliminated the back and forth tugging, and the intense helmet lifting I was feeling over 65mph (I run a Shoei RF1200 as well...nice helmet!) I went for an extended ride yesterday, and when I thought I could get a way with it, I pushed the bike up much faster than the law would normally allow. Even up near the "ton" there was no helmet lift, and the side to side wrestling match was absolutely gone. That's at normal seating position. In a tuck behind the screen (I got the normal height, not the touring screen), it's absolutely silent and still, almost like you're not even moving.
So there you have it. The final cure for me was the spendy but beautiful (in my eyes) Road Comet II. I agree with other comments as well that a very relaxed grip on the bars and hugging the tank with your knees at all times also make a big difference. I'll be honest...the day I rode the CB home for the first time (on the freeway, mind you), I was asking myself "oh god, what have I done???" All my worries about wind management are gone now...all smiles from here on out.
I hope that helps. - kvdv
kvdv, what is the height of your RC II, from the ignition switch to the top of the screen?
Other threads indicate that 8.5" to 10" seems to be an optimal height for wind management on these bikes.
The Dart is 9.25", but doesn't seem to be doing it for me......maybe my height & riding position is meaning the Dart is throwing air at me in a bad place. Another clue is that when on a country road and I stand up on the footpegs (I've only did this at 100 kph max) putting my head in clean air, both of my helmets quiet down dramatically. When I sit down again, the noise & buffeting is instant.
ClassicVW_imp
Road warrior
IMO, unless you are extremely short, don't expect the Dart nor the Road Comet to shield you completely. When I first bought and rode my naked CB on the highway I was tired of being strongly pushed backward. The pressure was forceful and at my stomach to chest level. Straight back, no turbulent buffeting.
I put on the Road Comet and now there is still wind, but it's now at my lower shoulder/collarbone level, and it's all spread out and feels much lighter, no strong force. BTW- I'm exactly 6' tall.
So, I can see how if you're just the right height, you may get wind under your helmet.
I put on the Road Comet and now there is still wind, but it's now at my lower shoulder/collarbone level, and it's all spread out and feels much lighter, no strong force. BTW- I'm exactly 6' tall.
So, I can see how if you're just the right height, you may get wind under your helmet.
