Heat soak starter coil, or weak battery?

[peterbaron]

:rofl:...

 

[Nachodaddy]

On the subject of battery life and heat, I have to mention that I live in one of the hottest places in the US, near Phoenix, Arizona, and have never seen a problem with battery life due solely to heat. Common daily high temperatures here from mid-May until the end of September are 105F to 115F. The batteries in all my vehicles last at least three and usually closer to five years. I have a 2017 Honda CRV (battery died at about three years), a 2000 Ford F-150 that usually requires a battery at a little over three years, a 1923 Ford with a six-volt battery that lasts about four years. The other two motorcycles got over three years life out of their batteries and the Miata, which was killed by a twenty-ton gravel truck, got at least three years and I am thinking it was closer to five years out of it's battery. While all my vehicles are garaged except the truck, my garage is unbearably hot in the summer. All the batteries are common lead-acid batteries available at any automotive parts store. Hope this helps.

 

[peterbaron]

That is very short life for battery.
I live in Ontario, and my car’s battery life is almost 10 years and for motorcycle about 5 years.
Normal, acid type.

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

That is very short life for battery.
I live in Ontario, and my car’s battery life is almost 10 years and for motorcycle about 5 years.
Normal, acid type.

Quality of the battery plays a role, especially with AGM types.

An old school lead-acid battery can last up to 25 years if prudent care is taken. Farmers do this all the time with equipment. However again, battery quality is important.

 

[Nachodaddy]

Good points. I have lived in very hot places for so long, I have become accustomed to batteries needing replacement in 3-5 years. That is usually the warranty period too.

 

[peterbaron]

My moto AGM, just passed 4th year

 

[Whoops]

That is very short life for battery.
I live in Ontario, and my car’s battery life is almost 10 years and for motorcycle about 5 years.
Normal, acid type.

Quality of the battery plays a role, especially with AGM types.

An old school lead-acid battery can last up to 25 years if prudent care is taken. Farmers do this all the time with equipment. However again, battery quality is important.

Quality of the battery plays a role, especially with AGM types.

An old school lead-acid battery can last up to 25 years if prudent care is taken. Farmers do this all the time with equipment. However again, battery quality is important.
Recommendations? My 2014 is on the original still. I think the battery should probably be replaced at some point, maybe. I will probably grab a gel replacement if that matters. Seems to be a solid middle ground technology between lead-acid and lithium from everything I have read.

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

My moto AGM, just passed 4th year

My 2014 Honda OEM CB1100 AGM battery lasted five years. This was on the tail end of the expected length of battery life. No complaints. The bike saw a lot of outdoor exposure and was not pampered.

 

[max]

A bit outside our budget but these are the batteries G.O. probably means, they stand in banks on the floor of a telecom exchange To maintain 52 volts ( negative with respect to ground ), are on constant float charge in a ventilated room 100% on-line and have a design life of 20 years, the plates however are 8 mm. thick and the enclosure is glass, very heavy and expensive .
They need topping up with de-mineralised water and are tested on a regular schedule;
https://www.exponentialpower.com/stt2v700.html

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

A bit outside our budget but these are the batteries G.O. probably means, they stand in banks on the floor of a telecom exchange To maintain 52 volts ( negative with respect to ground ), are on constant float charge in a ventilated room 100% on-line and have a design life of 20 years, the plates however are 8 mm. thick and the enclosure is glass, very heavy and expensive .
They need topping up with de-mineralised water and are tested on a regular schedule;
https://www.exponentialpower.com/stt2v700.html

lol - you worked at a Central Office too?

 

[Cormanus]

Cormanus, I’m not searching for it and it was a few years ago. You made your name a cool color and I wanted a cool color too. Maybe some others did too, I can’t remember. Anyway I think you got with Guth and he said no. Good call on his part. Smart man he is.

I've a vague memory of it, but I've no idea how I did it. A quick search has not thrown up any clues.

 

[max]

lol - you worked at a Central Office too?
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Five years telecom maintenance and cellsites update from analog to g3 wcdma and all over exchanges as ac and dc electrician, lots to see and learn.

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

lol - you worked at a Central Office too?

Five years telecom maintenance and cellsites update from analog to g3 wcdma and all over exchanges as ac and dc electrician, lots to see and learn.
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Five years telecom maintenance and cellsites update from analog to g3 wcdma and all over exchanges as ac and dc electrician, lots to see and learn.
Did a few years in a CO and we had a room full of 48V wet-cell glass lead acid batteries. Man, if one or more were to rupture, it would have been an ugly scene.

A co-worker at the time rode in on a 1985 Yamaha SRX600. What an advanced thumper for its time. Uncommon here. Very light bike.

 

[peterbaron]

Nice bike

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

Nice bike

I found the SRX600 difficult to start in cold temperatures.

 

[Lord Popgun]

Gold, was that inherent to that bike, or when the carbs needed cleaning/adjustment?

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

Gold, was that inherent to that bike, or when the carbs needed cleaning/adjustment?

Likely the former since it was new at the time.

Warm weather starts were a non-issue.

I used to ride a Suzuki DR200 (brand new) that was difficult to start near the freezing temperature. Choke it too much and the engine flooded.