general information

[gary_imp]

I stopped by the dealer today to pick up the manual. They had a standard in so I snapped a quick pic.



I also took some pictures of the general information pages of the manual. I thought it was interesting to see the differences between the '13 and the '14. Especially the oil and fuel pump flow rate.

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[Guth_imp]

Hi Gary,

Just a quick FYI. We don't allow direct presentation of copyrighted material on this site. I've edited your post so that the links remain to your images. If you want to present specific information directly on the site, such as highlighting some of the differences that you've mentioned, it is permissible to type those specs directly in the post (unlike presenting the images themselves directly in the post).

Thanks,
Guth

 

[gary_imp]

Hi Gary,

Just a quick FYI. We don't allow direct presentation of copyrighted material on this site. I've edited your post so that the links remain to your images. If you want to present specific information directly on the site, such as highlighting some of the differences that you've mentioned, it is permissible to type those specs directly in the post (unlike presenting the images themselves directly in the post).

Thanks,
Guth

Ah my bad. I didn't even think about that liability. Thanks for taking the time to edit the links.

For those that are curious, the information I found interesting.

Rear axle travel
'13 - 114mm
'14 - 113mm

Engine Dry Weight
'13 - 191.6 lbs
'14 - 192.9 lbs

Fuel pump flow at 12v
'13 - 9.8 oz/sec
'14 - 13.3 oz/sec

Fork Fluid Level
Both forks on the standard '13 and '14 - 4.6"
Right fork on the dlx - 4.4"
Left fork on the dlx - 7.3"

Fork oil capacity
Standard both years - 16.7 oz both forks
Right fork on dlx - 17.1 oz
Left fork on dlx - 14.7 oz

Fork sping length
Standard both years - 13.21"
Right fork, dlx - 4.4"
Left fork, dlx - 7.3"

Ignition timing
'13 - 8 degress btdc
'14 - 10 degrees btdc


Also it looks like just about every gear in the gearbox is different.

 

[Guth_imp]

Thanks Gary!

 

[Cormanus]

Thanks, Gary. Here's the picture in a larger format. It's a lovely looking thing. Is that an unsold '13 model in the background?

 

[Elipten_imp]

That is a lot of black! A Batman suit would be a good fit.


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[the Ferret]

That is interesting info Gary. Looking at the pages I caught everything but the fork fluid difference which by itself is interesting, but also the fuel pump rate and the timing difference are interesting. One thing you missed was the ground clearance..5.3 vs 4.9 inches ...substantially different yet seat height is reportedly the same. Crazy. Why so many changes?

Oh and the 13 standard gained 5 pounds on the 13. Due to 6 th gear and instrumentation differences?

Another thing that caught my eye was amount of oil after teardown...1.1 quarts more than when changing the oil and filter. There must be a lot of dirty oil left in the crankcase somewhere after you drain the oil and remove the filter. Wow.

 

[Capo]

From that pic, ( hard to tell with the abundance of black) it also looks like the side cover is a different shape than the DLX...it doesn't look like it covers the frame in front. Can anyone corroborate that?

 

[HikerToo_imp]

Part of the reason I bought a 2013 only Honda Manual, to keep me from upgrading to a 2014 and to have specific info for "my" CB and not have to share with the 2014.

 

[CB4ME_imp]

From that pic, ( hard to tell with the abundance of black) it also looks like the side cover is a different shape than the DLX...it doesn't look like it covers the frame in front. Can anyone corroborate that?

Same side panel shape as the 2013 and the grab rail looks like the 2013.

Honda engineers must have a love affair with the CB1100. All the little changes show lots of tweaking and tinkering. They can't keep their hands offa it.

It's going to make things interesting for the aftermarket manufacturers and those of us wanting to mix and match parts. Case in point, the new aluminum sprocket covers.

 

[the Ferret]

From that pic, ( hard to tell with the abundance of black) it also looks like the side cover is a different shape than the DLX...it doesn't look like it covers the frame in front. Can anyone corroborate that?

Yep, just took this picture for you a few minutes ago. also the sprocket cover appeared to be metal to me.

 

[gary_imp]

Thanks, Gary. Here's the picture in a larger format. It's a lovely looking thing. Is that an unsold '13 model in the background?

Yes, that is an unsold '13 in the background. It has been there for a while now.

From that pic, ( hard to tell with the abundance of black) it also looks like the side cover is a different shape than the DLX...it doesn't look like it covers the frame in front. Can anyone corroborate that?

Yep, just took this picture for you a few minutes ago. also the sprocket cover appeared to be metal to me.

I agree Ferret, the sprocket cover is aluminum on the black standard. The salesman gave me a hard time for tapping on the cover .

 

[the Ferret]

Thanks, Gary. Here's the picture in a larger format. It's a lovely looking thing. Is that an unsold '13 model in the background?

Yes, that is an unsold '13 in the background. It has been there for a while now.

From that pic, ( hard to tell with the abundance of black) it also looks like the side cover is a different shape than the DLX...it doesn't look like it covers the frame in front. Can anyone corroborate that?

Yep, just took this picture for you a few minutes ago. also the sprocket cover appeared to be metal to me.

I agree Ferret, the sprocket cover is aluminum on the black standard. The salesman gave me a hard time for tapping on the cover .

Did the same thing...tink tink tink

 

[Rolls_imp]

Interesting... engine weight increases only 1.3 lb.

The additional weight must come more from the extra gas (0.7gal) and the exhaust pipes (we know the '13 can was pretty heavy).

 

[Obliviontoad]

There is an unsold 2013 up here in Syracuse as well. I mentioned maybe putting some lever knob end covers may attract some attention to it. They had lots of nice shiny new rides, and were unloading more. Don't think they ordered any 2014s for stock, could be wrong. I'd like to see one too, if only to check what blacked out parts would fit mine.

 

[Tyke57nz_imp]

Thanks, Gary. Here's the picture in a larger format. It's a lovely looking thing. Is that an unsold '13 model in the background?

A discreet silver fern on each side cover and it would be just the job for a Kiwi, shame I can`t photoshop!!:beerchug:

 

[Cormanus]

Sort of like this?

 

[the Ferret]

Dang, where have I been? What is the significance of the silver fern?

 

[Tyke57nz_imp]

Dang, where have I been? What is the significance of the silver fern?

The mighty All Blacks:worship:

 

[flynrider]

I'd like to know the story behind the fuel pump flow rates. Those are substantially different.

Most interesting is the DLX fork fluid level. Normally, forks will have identical fluid levels unless there is something about the system that is different. The only one that comes to mind is the TRAC anti-dive system that Honda used on their 80s Nighthawks. That required more fluid on the left side than the right. Anybody heard anything about a gizmo in the DLX fork system??