cam on a stick

[The Gecko_imp]

There was a few posts a long time ago where somebody had mounted a video cam at the end of a 5ft long antenna or wire, at the back of the bike. When riding the cam/wire made slow, wide and sometimes wild swings in all directions. Some shots were really stunning.
Can't find this thread no more, at least not with a title search for cam, vid, or similar.
Would anybody remember ?

 

[KiowaEagle_imp]

Probably a 360 degree camera. It records everything at once and then you can choose what parts of the picture to use through editing.

 

[Cormanus]

The Gecko: unless the post with the video was in the For Sale section or was deemed offensive (sounds unlikely) it’s very unlikely to have been deleted. Do you have any idea when it was posted—even an approximate time might help narrow the search.

If it was a 360° camera, I recall Tev62 either talking about one or posting a video of using it.

Finally, I agree with the sentiment in your signature. There have been some, and we try to stay polite and welcoming, but they seem to fade away and leave us,

Edit: wasn’t this one was it? http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=16419

 

[Nachodaddy]

Gecko, the YouTube video series by "Itchy Boots" has a lot of good motorcycle video ideas. She also has a web-site with lessons (for a fee) on using cameras on motorcycles. but you can get many good ideas from watching her videos.

 

[pdedse]

The Gecko: unless the post with the video was in the For Sale section or was deemed offensive (sounds unlikely) it’s very unlikely to have been deleted. Do you have any idea when it was posted—even an approximate time might help narrow the search.

If it was a 360° camera, I recall Tev62 either talking about one or posting a video of using it.

Finally, I agree with the sentiment in your signature. There have been some, and we try to stay polite and welcoming, but they seem to fade away and leave us,

Edit: wasn’t this one was it? http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=16419

I think when we post photos with us in them, that scares away the womenfolk...and the kids, neighbors, the cats hide, etc.

 

[The Gecko_imp]

The Gecko: unless the post with the video was in the For Sale section or was deemed offensive (sounds unlikely) it’s very unlikely to have been deleted. Do you have any idea when it was posted—even an approximate time might help narrow the search.

If it was a 360° camera, I recall Tev62 either talking about one or posting a video of using it.

Finally, I agree with the sentiment in your signature. There have been some, and we try to stay polite and welcoming, but they seem to fade away and leave us,

Edit: wasn’t this one was it? http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=16419

YESSSSS !!!

The Gecko: unless the post with the video was in the For Sale section or was deemed offensive (sounds unlikely) it’s very unlikely to have been deleted. Do you have any idea when it was posted—even an approximate time might help narrow the search.

If it was a 360° camera, I recall Tev62 either talking about one or posting a video of using it.

Finally, I agree with the sentiment in your signature. There have been some, and we try to stay polite and welcoming, but they seem to fade away and leave us,

Edit: wasn’t this one was it? http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=16419

I think when we post photos with us in them, that scares away the womenfolk...and the kids, neighbors, the cats hide, etc.

I think when we post photos with us in them, that scares away the womenfolk...and the kids, neighbors, the cats hide, etc.
This is very, very unlikely, pdedse. Few people are pretty, and if so only for a few years. Easy come, easy go ! BUT ... while men get better with age - say beyond 55 - girls don't.
I am thinking Sean C. and Co.
And while this may have good reasons dodgy .... evolution comes to mind ??? ...
THIS IS UNFAIR !

 

[rich_imp]

my wife is 75 and still the most beautiful lady i know
and was hot when we met so long ago

 

[Tev62]

Cormanus answered your question. I still have my Insta360 and it is a great bit of kit but to me is best used in conjunction with a regular camera helmet mounted where you can plug in a microphone. Endless video without some sort of commentary or discussion gets quite boring, more so if you are not the the original rider. I do believe an entertaining video needs voice.
The regular camera with audio becomes the main focus and the 360 adds an extra layer to that. Those Insta 360's can be used as a camera for a regular photo and the perspective can be changed to a single video lens too.

Their big failing on a bike is the onboard microphones get totally overwhelmed by wind noise, you would be lucky to get the sound of the engine let alone anything else. Adding a microphone and all that entails is messy. As they are on a long pole (or can be) you would want a wireless setup which adds another layer of cost. You are just choosing the view you would like to see out of the overall 360 image and processing that so you are discarding the greater majority of the recorded data.

But you can make multiple videos out of the same 360 Degree footage. Say you are group riding with your 360 camera. You might decide to set the editing software to track "Dave" for 5 minutes and produce the video. Then go back and do the same for three other riders in the group. You then end up with four videos, each rider having their own footage. Subsequently in your editing software (separate from the 360 editing software) you can layer those four videos and chop and change between them to create a dynamic group ride shot. The possibilities are endless, just needs a little imagination.

It is a great bit of kit and amazing lens technology.

 

[The Gecko_imp]

my wife is 75 and still the most beautiful lady i know
and was hot when we met so long ago

This is a totally cool post, rich !

Cormanus answered your question. I still have my Insta360 and it is a great bit of kit but to me is best used in conjunction with a regular camera helmet mounted where you can plug in a microphone. Endless video without some sort of commentary or discussion gets quite boring, more so if you are not the the original rider. I do believe an entertaining video needs voice.
The regular camera with audio becomes the main focus and the 360 adds an extra layer to that. Those Insta 360's can be used as a camera for a regular photo and the perspective can be changed to a single video lens too.

Their big failing on a bike is the onboard microphones get totally overwhelmed by wind noise, you would be lucky to get the sound of the engine let alone anything else. Adding a microphone and all that entails is messy. As they are on a long pole (or can be) you would want a wireless setup which adds another layer of cost. You are just choosing the view you would like to see out of the overall 360 image and processing that so you are discarding the greater majority of the recorded data.

But you can make multiple videos out of the same 360 Degree footage. Say you are group riding with your 360 camera. You might decide to set the editing software to track "Dave" for 5 minutes and produce the video. Then go back and do the same for three other riders in the group. You then end up with four videos, each rider having their own footage. Subsequently in your editing software (separate from the 360 editing software) you can layer those four videos and chop and change between them to create a dynamic group ride shot. The possibilities are endless, just needs a little imagination.

It is a great bit of kit and amazing lens technology.

I can see the concept of the selfie-stick and the 360 footage cam, but how come he can show a view from behind and top of himself, and moments later from somewhere close to his knee. Does he get off the bike to make that positional adjustment ? And how come it appears sometime as if the stick swings around in the wind ?

 

[Nachodaddy]

my wife is 75 and still the most beautiful lady i know
and was hot when we met so long ago

This is a totally cool post, rich !

Cormanus answered your question. I still have my Insta360 and it is a great bit of kit but to me is best used in conjunction with a regular camera helmet mounted where you can plug in a microphone. Endless video without some sort of commentary or discussion gets quite boring, more so if you are not the the original rider. I do believe an entertaining video needs voice.
The regular camera with audio becomes the main focus and the 360 adds an extra layer to that. Those Insta 360's can be used as a camera for a regular photo and the perspective can be changed to a single video lens too.

Their big failing on a bike is the onboard microphones get totally overwhelmed by wind noise, you would be lucky to get the sound of the engine let alone anything else. Adding a microphone and all that entails is messy. As they are on a long pole (or can be) you would want a wireless setup which adds another layer of cost. You are just choosing the view you would like to see out of the overall 360 image and processing that so you are discarding the greater majority of the recorded data.

But you can make multiple videos out of the same 360 Degree footage. Say you are group riding with your 360 camera. You might decide to set the editing software to track "Dave" for 5 minutes and produce the video. Then go back and do the same for three other riders in the group. You then end up with four videos, each rider having their own footage. Subsequently in your editing software (separate from the 360 editing software) you can layer those four videos and chop and change between them to create a dynamic group ride shot. The possibilities are endless, just needs a little imagination.

It is a great bit of kit and amazing lens technology.

I can see the concept of the selfie-stick and the 360 footage cam, but how come he can show a view from behind and top of himself, and moments later from somewhere close to his knee. Does he get off the bike to make that positional adjustment ? And how come it appears sometime as if the stick swings around in the wind ?

I can see the concept of the selfie-stick and the 360 footage cam, but how come he can show a view from behind and top of himself, and moments later from somewhere close to his knee. Does he get off the bike to make that positional adjustment ? And how come it appears sometime as if the stick swings around in the wind ? Gecko, Kev's remarks above are very important. So much is done in "Post-production" or the editing after you film the video. I am sure others who have used this camera and know more about it than I, will be able to explain it better, but here's my ideas. I think the camera is making recordings of everything around it (360degrees) as it goes and then you crop what you want from it and plug it into your finished video where you like when you edit it. I can't imagine how to get those effects - especially the "drone" effect.
Wish they weren't so expensive, but my first digital camera was primitive by today's standards and it cost $500, when that was a LOT of money. Now my cell phone has a better camera.

 

[Tev62]

my wife is 75 and still the most beautiful lady i know
and was hot when we met so long ago

This is a totally cool post, rich !

Cormanus answered your question. I still have my Insta360 and it is a great bit of kit but to me is best used in conjunction with a regular camera helmet mounted where you can plug in a microphone. Endless video without some sort of commentary or discussion gets quite boring, more so if you are not the the original rider. I do believe an entertaining video needs voice.
The regular camera with audio becomes the main focus and the 360 adds an extra layer to that. Those Insta 360's can be used as a camera for a regular photo and the perspective can be changed to a single video lens too.

Their big failing on a bike is the onboard microphones get totally overwhelmed by wind noise, you would be lucky to get the sound of the engine let alone anything else. Adding a microphone and all that entails is messy. As they are on a long pole (or can be) you would want a wireless setup which adds another layer of cost. You are just choosing the view you would like to see out of the overall 360 image and processing that so you are discarding the greater majority of the recorded data.

But you can make multiple videos out of the same 360 Degree footage. Say you are group riding with your 360 camera. You might decide to set the editing software to track "Dave" for 5 minutes and produce the video. Then go back and do the same for three other riders in the group. You then end up with four videos, each rider having their own footage. Subsequently in your editing software (separate from the 360 editing software) you can layer those four videos and chop and change between them to create a dynamic group ride shot. The possibilities are endless, just needs a little imagination.

It is a great bit of kit and amazing lens technology.

I can see the concept of the selfie-stick and the 360 footage cam, but how come he can show a view from behind and top of himself, and moments later from somewhere close to his knee. Does he get off the bike to make that positional adjustment ? And how come it appears sometime as if the stick swings around in the wind ?

This is a totally cool post, rich !

I can see the concept of the selfie-stick and the 360 footage cam, but how come he can show a view from behind and top of himself, and moments later from somewhere close to his knee. Does he get off the bike to make that positional adjustment ? And how come it appears sometime as if the stick swings around in the wind ?
The behind and on top are probably from one camera position. The lower shots would be from a repositioned camera yes. You can actually have a stick swinging around, there is that accessory but it isn't really something to use on a bike. The swing around is merely you choosing what camera angle you want in the 360 editing software. You choose a transition point and then manually drag the 360 image with your mouse (on a PC) to the new view and create another transition point. The software interpolates the image between those two transitions. The further apart those transitions the slower the image swings around to the new view. Shorten those points and it swings around more quickly.

As Nachodaddy says, there is a lot of video editing after the event in separate 360 editing software (free) to produce useful footage for a traditional 16:9 video thereafter.

 

[The Gecko_imp]

Thanks, guys !

 

[Nachodaddy]

Thanks, guys !

You are welcome. Your questions got me looking into maybe getting one of those 360 cameras or a drone. Remind me sometime to tell you the story of one of my female biker friends who rode her first bike (Sportster) into her neighbor's pool the first time she rode it. She has put many thousands of miles all over the world on bikes since then.

 

[Cormanus]

Don’t wait, Nachodaddy: tell the story.

 

[Nachodaddy]

Don’t wait, Nachodaddy: tell the story.

After years of yearning for a motorcycle, my wife's friend, Diane finally was able to afford one. She took a riding course where she learned to ride a 250cc bike. Then she went to the closest Harley dealer, some 65 miles away and bought a new 883 Sportster. I rode it home for her. I carefully parked it in her garage pointing it out the door. The driveway was on a slight hill down to the street. My thought, which I didn't articulate very well to her, evidently, was that, when she was ready to practice on it, she would call me and I'd come over and put it on the street for her and she could ride around the neighborhood until she was comfortable with it. The next morning I awoke to Diane calling and asking if I could come help get her bike out of her neighbor's pool. She had been so excited, she couldn't wait to ride it. She was so surprised when she popped the clutch that she forgot everything she'd learned and the bike flew out of the garage, down the driveway and across the street, over the curb and through the neighbor's wooden fence, which is where Diane departed ways with the bike. When the other guys and I got there, the bike was lying on it's side at the bottom of the shallow end of the neighbor's pool. Headlight still shining brightly. The fence looked like Wiley Coyote went through it. The dealership named her "Commandant of the Harley Underwater Rider's Group." She learned to ride her Sportster and rode it all over Europe (where she was stationed as a US Air Force Nurse) and has had many full-size Harleys and other bikes since. This summer she rode several tours around the US, including the Route 66 tour with the "Women in the Wind." But, to my knowledge, she hasn't ridden in anyone's pool since 1995.

 

[ymtnpoah11_imp]

:clap::clap:

 

[Cormanus]

Brilliant. Thank you for sharing Nachodaddy.

 

[pdedse]

That's quite the story...my first bike as an adult was a Sportster...can't imagine what she must have been feeling as she looked at her brand new bike at the bottom of the sea. You say she learned to ride her Sportster...so it wasn't totalled?

 

[Nachodaddy]

That's quite the story...my first bike as an adult was a Sportster...can't imagine what she must have been feeling as she looked at her brand new bike at the bottom of the sea. You say she learned to ride her Sportster...so it wasn't totalled?

It was in surprisingly good shape. After we got it out, the light was still on, even though it was half full of water. I told her to just put a gold-fish in it and go. There was no crash damage that I could see. No dents or scrapes. She was bruised and sore from taking out the fence. She had the dealer pick it up and they had it for three weeks and it looked like new when she got it back. I thought all she really needed to do was change the oil and fuel and it should be good, since they do sit in the rain sometimes anyway. But it was her baby and she did it the right way.

 

[Tev62]

Ha ha, nice story Nachodaddy. Reminds me off a clip from a really successful TV series we had over here called "The Inbetweeners".