Gasket maker

[peterbaron]

Yesterday, one of my tech assembled a complex engine using Permatex product that should fully cure within 24 hrs.
He came back to work today, and after 18 hrs sealant is still wet, not even tacky.
We use this company products for decades and never had a single problem with sealing/tacking or anything.
He was totally p'od, as this particular job took him 6 hrs, so we sent him home to relax.

Meantime, I did a test of the same products from four different tubes:
* an old/opened good sealant & unopened, both grey tubes, R-side pics
* the sealant he used & unopened, both black tubes, L-side pics
After couple of hrs, the grey tube sealant was curing satisfactory, unlike the black tube sealant was still wet.
The black tube sealant he used to seal his engine parts still wet after 34 hrs.

Both product have the identical OEM part numbers and bar codes, however the "serial or production numbers" at tubes bottom are different, but I do not think it matters. Both sealant substance is of the identical grey colour.
At this moment there is no more info/Saturday, and we will resume our inquiry on Monday.
I am thinking of some technical glitch, like missing hardener/curing ingredient during production process...counterfeit....or ?????
So if you doing a complex or big jobs with this product, do yourself a tacky test prior to avoid doing it twice and wasting(?) your time.
Hope to update this thread next week.
If you have any info/thoughts, share please.

[Nachodaddy]

I am interested to see how this turns out.

[PowerDubs_imp]

Weird.

Sorry to hear of the hassle- that sucks!


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[Wagonpeddler_imp]

I sell industrial supplies...including the Permatex line. Typically sell the High Temp red or black. Not familiar with Ultra Grey. Look forward to updates.

[Houtman_imp]

That is very interesting and strange , please let us know the outcome .

[peterbaron]

Checked and tested all tubes in stock, and out of nine , eight have failed.
These are the tubes that are marked OEM/L-side pic.
So far, it looks like a bad batch...???
Emailed sent to Permatex head office>>>Edit: this case is being investigating

[GoldOxide_imp]

... sounds pretty straightforward. Exchange the batch and move forward.

[Houtman_imp]

Please keep us informed what the company tells you about (if anything ! )

[Nachodaddy]

I would bet a lot of money that they will send you a case of the stuff with no explanation.

[GoldOxide_imp]

I would bet a lot of money that they will send you a case of the stuff with no explanation.

... Truth be told: Probably the front line won't have a clue nor would care to know why.

It would be on the client to put in an Action Request for an explanation. That might raise the probability of anything meaningful by half.

The bottom line is the batch is bad. It happens in our global economy world. Not right, no. More people should care, but maybe many are paid to little to bother.