2014 CB1100 Now On Honda's Website!

[SanPete_imp]

Buffalohead..you have an Indian Chief with a basket and haven't posting pictures or a ride report? C'mon man... No more holding out! Post up brother!

(01-24-2014 09:52 PM)Guth Wrote:
Just look at the threads around this place a few weeks back. Collectively as a group, we still didn't know what might, or might not be headed our way this year as far as the CB1100 was concerned.

Also, it's one thing to be dissatisfied with a product, but to want a different product even more doesn't necessarily mean that a person isn't happy with what they bought. We all have different preferences. For many, the 2013 model was the best thing going back when it was released. Now for some, the 2014 Deluxe model will supplant the 2013 offering as the bike that comes the closest to their ideal. That doesn't strike me as being all that difficult to understand. I hope that everyone out there who is pining for a 2014 model is able to find a way to make it happen. Especially if that means selling or trading in a 2013 model. The more CB1100s out there being ridden, the better.

Guth said it best above ....

I want to be clear, I really love my 2013, great motorcycle, not a thing wrong with it. I am just more attracted to the looks and features of the 2014 Deluxe that's all. I was able to make the trade without having to dip into my savings very much ( important when you are retired like me). Many of the physical attractions on the 2014 are changes many of you have made to your 2013s at considerable expense..seats, side covers, tanks, exhausts etc. the only changes I made to my 2013 were the little rubber end covers ( already on order for the 2014), a removable windshield which will fit the new one, soft luggage ( fits the new one) valve stem caps $2 and they are black so they will stay with the trade, grips will get moved to the new one, helmet lock will get moved to the new one, and battery tender pig tail which will get moved to the new one. So I will be out about $6 worth of changes I can't switch over.

Ferret, I know you said you were pleased with the deal... and that you traded in two bikes for the new one. But do you think you we're given a good price for your '13
and/or a good price, relative to sticker, on the '14? In other words, without the 2nd trade, would the spread have been 'about' what's been bantered about elsewhere on the forum? Also... How many miles were on your trade? And did you have to turn in your '13 now, or will you do that when you take delivery on the new one? I'm going to trade in mine, but was planning on waiting until the new ones arrived. However, 'maybe' it would make sense to do it now...before they arrive. Thoughts?

Sorry gheil, missed this question. I felt I was treated fairly and we came out pretty close on what I was expecting to get and pay difference for all 3 units. I'd give you exact numbers but they would do you no good as numbers only mean something to the two parties involved. I know what I paid for my CB and what I got on trade. I know what I paid for my Majesty and what I got on trade and they were all numbers I could live with. I have bought 6 new motorcycles from this dealer in the last 7 years and I am personal friends with the owner and have known him for 40 years so it's possible I get treated a little better than a stranger walking in off the street, but I think a savvy shopper who wont let a dealer wholesale his trade and then retail the new unit on him could do just as well.

With this long relationship and purchases track I say you do get treated differently, otherwise you would not be a returning customer. You are right when you say numbers are just numbers and in this case would do us no good. I can't tell my dealer "ferret got a better deal" and expect them to match it. Not sure that conversation will end up in my favor. I just remember you saying on another thread that you would not sell your CB for $6k, so I was curious to find out if you got a good deal and obviously you did.

In my case; and to clarify what I said before on another thread; I was quoted $6-$6.5 by a Victory dealer and not a Honda dealer. I visited my local Honda shop and they had a used Victoy Judge on their floor, but they don't give test rides as they have been sued before. I asked for a trade in value for my CB and they quoted me $5.1-$5.7 by the sales floor manager. One of the sales guy told me he used to work at Stpetepowersports and they offer test rides because it brings in a lot of sales and they have not been sued. So off I went and sure enough they prepared a brand new bike for me to test. I was very pleased with the torque and performance of the bike, especially on the highway. The Manager of the store (Dan) told me he can give me between $6-$6.5 because a lot of his customers buy Bonneville and it is a similar bike. At the end I couldn't part with the CB, but I am willing to for a new and improved CB.

Anyhow, thanks for answering gheil's question and pardon me for butting in on your conversation. This is important to me as I weigh in my options on how to approach it, just as many others here are.

[TINK_imp]

I'm going to buy a black standard for sure because of my black sidecar. But....DARN IT, I love that 4 into 2 exhaust! With the right side hidden by the sidecar, the 4 into 2 would look great! I can only imagine how much a 4 into 2 would cost. Why doesn't Honda allow special orders, since all of these parts are available? I hate these kind of temptations!

Don't frett, Buffalohead, someone will pull the 4-2 off their DLX and replace it with a lighter, louder system.

[Deanohh_imp]

For the "vintage" look, wouldn't 4 into 4 be the way to go? I don't get what's the big deal with 4 -2. But certainly someone will take off the 4-2 and replace it with, I don't know, maybe a cool lighter weight 4 into 1.

[Red Mist_imp]

It is quite fascinating to see how many posts there are from owners of the current 2013 model who are champing at the bit to get the latest 2014. From my POV, I just cannot find anything flawed in the visual of the 2013 US model. The guy who designed it took his time and had a free hand, and in my view he got the classic styling cues just right. The polished aluminum case and valve covers contrast with the dark gunmetal gray of the engine to really set it off as the centerpiece of the bike, but not in an overstated way. It's less money to manufacture a completely blacked-out engine, so those details are a result of extra work put into the bike. Same for the 4-into-1 exhaust. That's polished stainless steel. Mine's getting this lovely saffron sheen after a couple of thousand miles, characteristic of stainless steel. It'll never rust or corrode, either, unlike chrome. The dual exhausts are going to be a bit heavier and certainly can't help with performance; they're chromed, which in time may flake, rust, or just get chipped off. That's a visual only, no advantage or performance increase at all. Higher bars? I was thinking of going to the lower, Japanese-spec option, if anything. I've gotten used to the stock bars, higher than anything else in my garage except the BMW. So they'll stay put. Nothing's going to change on my 2013. Different isn't always better, it's just different. I think they got the 2013 as "right" as it could be gotten. They're now going for a alternative styling, and that strikes a sympathetic note with many riders. But let's just not throw the baby out with the bathwater here.

[the Ferret]

Buffalohead..i 'm quite certain we will be getting silver motor and mags.

[Buffalohead_imp]

I'm going to buy a black standard for sure because of my black sidecar. But....DARN IT, I love that 4 into 2 exhaust! With the right side hidden by the sidecar, the 4 into 2 would look great! I can only imagine how much a 4 into 2 would cost. Why doesn't Honda allow special orders, since all of these parts are available? I hate these kind of temptations!

Don't frett, Buffalohead, someone will pull the 4-2 off their DLX and replace it with a lighter, louder system.

I'm sure you're right but I'll bet there will be so many '13 and black '14 owners wanting them, the fight will be on!
Tink, the more I thought about it, the more I don't think I can live with the blacked out model. I could live with the engine and change out the turn signals. If I could have those beautiful silver wheels, then the standard would be OK. But, the 4 into 2 exhaust is the final determining factor. If it wasn't for that, I would try to powdercoat the wheels or something. It's still the smart thing to do, but that 4 into 2....

[flynrider]

I'm also thinking that there will be some stock 4 into 2 pipe sets available after the '14s have been out for awhile.

It's almost a UJM tradition to ditch stock multi-pipes for a 4 into 1. It's what made MAC, Yoshimura, V&H and Kerker famous.

I think that's one of the reasons Honda went with a 4 into 1 on the original CB11.

[Buffalohead_imp]

I'm also thinking that there will be some stock 4 into 2 pipe sets available after the '14s have been out for awhile.

It's almost a UJM tradition to ditch stock multi-pipes for a 4 into 1. It's what made MAC, Yoshimura, V&H and Kerker famous.

I think that's one of the reasons Honda went with a 4 into 1 on the original CB11.

If I knew for sure I could snatch some up, I would consider the Standard with bright powder coated wheels, although I would still prefer a black painter DLX.

[Barkingshins_imp]

It is quite fascinating to see how many posts there are from owners of the current 2013 model who are champing at the bit to get the latest 2014. From my POV, I just cannot find anything flawed in the visual of the 2013 US model. The guy who designed it took his time and had a free hand, and in my view he got the classic styling cues just right. The polished aluminum case and valve covers contrast with the dark gunmetal gray of the engine to really set it off as the centerpiece of the bike, but not in an overstated way. It's less money to manufacture a completely blacked-out engine, so those details are a result of extra work put into the bike. Same for the 4-into-1 exhaust. That's polished stainless steel. Mine's getting this lovely saffron sheen after a couple of thousand miles, characteristic of stainless steel. It'll never rust or corrode, either, unlike chrome. The dual exhausts are going to be a bit heavier and certainly can't help with performance; they're chromed, which in time may flake, rust, or just get chipped off. That's a visual only, no advantage or performance increase at all. Higher bars? I was thinking of going to the lower, Japanese-spec option, if anything. I've gotten used to the stock bars, higher than anything else in my garage except the BMW. So they'll stay put. Nothing's going to change on my 2013. Different isn't always better, it's just different. I think they got the 2013 as "right" as it could be gotten. They're now going for a alternative styling, and that strikes a sympathetic note with many riders. But let's just not throw the baby out with the bathwater here.

Are you sure that your exhaust is SS? From the Honda Powersports website for the 2013 CB11 (on the "Innovations" page) - "The CB1100’s four-into-one pipe gives this bike a crisp sound, and the chrome finish is a great highlight, too."

Not saying that you're wrong. If it is, in fact, a SS exhaust, I was not aware of it.

[736cc_imp]

It is quite fascinating to see how many posts there are from owners of the current 2013 model who are champing at the bit to get the latest 2014. From my POV, I just cannot find anything flawed in the visual of the 2013 US model. The guy who designed it took his time and had a free hand, and in my view he got the classic styling cues just right. The polished aluminum case and valve covers contrast with the dark gunmetal gray of the engine to really set it off as the centerpiece of the bike, but not in an overstated way. It's less money to manufacture a completely blacked-out engine, so those details are a result of extra work put into the bike. Same for the 4-into-1 exhaust. That's polished stainless steel. Mine's getting this lovely saffron sheen after a couple of thousand miles, characteristic of stainless steel. It'll never rust or corrode, either, unlike chrome. The dual exhausts are going to be a bit heavier and certainly can't help with performance; they're chromed, which in time may flake, rust, or just get chipped off. That's a visual only, no advantage or performance increase at all. Higher bars? I was thinking of going to the lower, Japanese-spec option, if anything. I've gotten used to the stock bars, higher than anything else in my garage except the BMW. So they'll stay put. Nothing's going to change on my 2013. Different isn't always better, it's just different. I think they got the 2013 as "right" as it could be gotten. They're now going for a alternative styling, and that strikes a sympathetic note with many riders. But let's just not throw the baby out with the bathwater here.

Are you sure that your exhaust is SS? From the Honda Powersports website for the 2013 CB11 (on the "Innovations" page) - "The CB1100’s four-into-one pipe gives this bike a crisp sound, and the chrome finish is a great highlight, too."

Not saying that you're wrong. If it is, in fact, a SS exhaust, I was not aware of it.

Are you sure that your exhaust is SS? From the Honda Powersports website for the 2013 CB11 (on the "Innovations" page) - "The CB1100’s four-into-one pipe gives this bike a crisp sound, and the chrome finish is a great highlight, too."

Not saying that you're wrong. If it is, in fact, a SS exhaust, I was not aware of it. Only the muffler is chromed steel, the headers/collector/cat are all stainless steel.