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(08-05-2013, 03:48 AM)Waffa_imp Wrote: For a guy that is used to 100% front brake for stopping on two wheels I think the rear is too good. The weight of my toes lock up the rear, and works great for coming to a dive free stop from 10-0mph.
VIN # 1001
P.S. Rear brakes aren't designed for high speed stopping. It is more for fine tuning handling properties.
When you are approaching a 40 mph curve at 50 mph, and want to scrub a little speed before entering the turn without upsetting the chassis, a push on the rer brake pedal should slow you down some...mine won't. At 50 mph, you'd be better off dragging your foot.
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#615 non ABS. Rear brakes are ineffective. Have tried break-in procedure few times with no improvement.
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(08-05-2013, 04:13 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: (08-05-2013, 03:48 AM)Waffa_imp Wrote: For a guy that is used to 100% front brake for stopping on two wheels I think the rear is too good. The weight of my toes lock up the rear, and works great for coming to a dive free stop from 10-0mph.
VIN # 1001
P.S. Rear brakes aren't designed for high speed stopping. It is more for fine tuning handling properties.
When you are approaching a 40 mph curve at 50 mph, and want to scrub a little speed before entering the turn without upsetting the chassis, a push on the rer brake pedal should slow you down some...mine won't. At 50 mph, you'd be better off dragging your foot.
As far as I can tell, you've been riding forever, so far be it from me to say how you should ride. However (you knew that was coming), at around this time you'd have to be downshifting anyhow, so front brake application would be the norm. Unless you're coasting into the turn, in which case "you're doing it wrong."*
*see my first sentence :-)
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(08-05-2013, 04:13 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: (08-05-2013, 03:48 AM)Waffa_imp Wrote: For a guy that is used to 100% front brake for stopping on two wheels I think the rear is too good. The weight of my toes lock up the rear, and works great for coming to a dive free stop from 10-0mph.
VIN # 1001
P.S. Rear brakes aren't designed for high speed stopping. It is more for fine tuning handling properties.
When you are approaching a 40 mph curve at 50 mph, and want to scrub a little speed before entering the turn without upsetting the chassis, a push on the rer brake pedal should slow you down some...mine won't. At 50 mph, you'd be better off dragging your foot.
When you are approaching a 40 mph curve at 50 mph, and want to scrub a little speed before entering the turn without upsetting the chassis, a push on the rer brake pedal should slow you down some...mine won't. At 50 mph, you'd be better off dragging your foot.
with this bit of information my brakes are just perfect then.
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Mine are pretty much worthless too. My 11 is non-ABS; my Blackbird has linked brakes so just using the rear alone will also exert some pressure on the front pads.
My 83 1100F had a rear disc and it worked just like its supposed too.
The rear brake on my new CB is just for show I guess.

Hopefully a new set of pads will give it at least something noticeable.
If Honda intended for the rear brakes to be this ineffective why did they put a brake pedal on the bike?
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Why don't you take the rear brake off and save all that extra weight, since it does nothing anyway?
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[quote='AzBob' pid='10121' dateline='1375740812']
As far as I can tell, you've been riding forever, so far be it from me to say how you should ride. However (you knew that was coming), at around this time you'd have to be downshifting anyhow, so front brake application would be the norm. Unless you're coasting into the turn, in which case "you're doing it wrong."* [quote]
Yea been riding awhile, since 1965 on the street. We were taught brake rear to front ie: hit rear brake first, front brake second. I may have been doing it wrong for 46 years now. I don't always downshift for a turn, sometimes I want to be in a certain gear, but just want to be going a little slower in that gear.
Hit the front brake alone entering a turn and several things may happen, (1) front end may dive, upsetting chassis,(2) it may even cause it to slide out, causing a low side or (3) bike may stand up straight ruining your line.
For what it's worth, the You and your motorcycle riding tips from Honda that came with your motorcycle says, and I think I can quote this verbatim, .."always apply both brakes at the same time"
I know some aficionados these days say they never touch the rear brake, on a disc brake equipped bike, but that's not going to happen with me, other than setting up for a turn where I tail brake (use the rear brake only) to scrub speed, I always use both brakes when slowing down or stopping.
I don't use my motors compression to slow down considerably, that's what brakes are for...
Also front brakes only, will only provide up to 70% of your bikes ability to stop. Why would you give up nearly 1/3 of your braking power by foregoing use of the rear brake? I've never understood that philosophy.
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Interesting discussion.. This link has some good information on braking
http://www.stevemunden.com/braking.html
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New update: Had my rear brakes bled today at dealer. Still have the SDS brake pads in. Rear brake will lock-up now. (BUT) you must use it hard. But, it will slide the rear tire now!! So I thank my Dealer (Kirk's cycle) in Dalton, Ga. and took the long way back to the house. It took them about 1 and 1/2 hours because they had a rush in the service department at the time. Open on Mondays. I was told that they would have to call Honda to see if anyone had complained about their rear brakes on their CB1100. No company wants a re-call now of days. I will keep everyone informed as the weeks go by on this brake issue. For now anyways, I will just see how it will do! Keep those posts coming! You never know what may happen.. If your CB1100 is not stopping like it should in the rear, talk to your dealer. It can't hurt. God Bless....
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Lo yea I have no intention of riding like that..100% of weight on front end? Nope, no way, aint gonna happen