Full or Open Face Helmet?

[Cormanus]

How would that helmet have known oil was on the road and saved the rider?

Is this a riddle? Because it was a smart helmet?

[jitaylor_imp]

Put a watermelon in an open face helmet and let it fall down from a 30 ft high tower.
Then do the same with a full helmet and see the difference...


Beside kidding, I tried an open face helmet only once in summer of 2003, when we had really hot temperatures. But very soon I decided, I like more the integral helmet, as it also protects you from the hot wind while riding in the heat.

It does not have to be that high. I was riding a (bicycle) track event in the late 70's and a girl fell over while completely still, doing a track stand, conked her head and died. A skull will smush when dropped from 1 meter just like a watermelon, the news later reported. Those were the days before hard bicycle helmets, when we used leather "hair nets". I am showing age here, I know.

[GoldOxide_imp]

Put a watermelon in an open face helmet and let it fall down from a 30 ft high tower.
Then do the same with a full helmet and see the difference...


Beside kidding, I tried an open face helmet only once in summer of 2003, when we had really hot temperatures. But very soon I decided, I like more the integral helmet, as it also protects you from the hot wind while riding in the heat.

It does not have to be that high. I was riding a (bicycle) track event in the late 70's and a girl fell over while completely still, doing a track stand, conked her head and died. A skull will smush when dropped from 1 meter just like a watermelon, the news later reported. Those were the days before hard bicycle helmets, when we used leather "hair nets". I am showing age here, I know.

It does not have to be that high. I was riding a (bicycle) track event in the late 70's and a girl fell over while completely still, doing a track stand, conked her head and died. A skull will smush when dropped from 1 meter just like a watermelon, the news later reported. Those were the days before hard bicycle helmets, when we used leather "hair nets". I am showing age here, I know.
Gee. Yeah, Falls Prevention is a large study and service area for seniors home living. Only takes a freak fall to damage the pumpkin. Riding at speed only diminishes the likelihood of a follow-through quality of life, if any.

[emptysea]

Why would that be interesting, GoldOxide?

Possibly on the assumption the neck wasn't broken due to whiplash I suppose (i.e. no helmet impact).

In terms of helmet impact, there could be a correlation between helmet "zone" impact and any severity of any neck damage. Never seen stats on that, not sure if there would be any. Hence, the call out.

Possibly on the assumption the neck wasn't broken due to whiplash I suppose (i.e. no helmet impact).

In terms of helmet impact, there could be a correlation between helmet "zone" impact and any severity of any neck damage. Never seen stats on that, not sure if there would be any. Hence, the call out.
Thanks for clearing that up. I've seen your original question, or forms of it, asked rhetorically in defense of not wearing a helmet (I don't think that was your reason for asking). The questioner usually has a hypothesis that helmets cause more injuries, particularly to the neck and spinal cord, than they prevent. My typical reply to those people is that in most cases, your head hitting the pavement would have probably killed you before you ever had the chance to realize you were paralyzed.

[GoldOxide_imp]

Why would that be interesting, GoldOxide?

Possibly on the assumption the neck wasn't broken due to whiplash I suppose (i.e. no helmet impact).

In terms of helmet impact, there could be a correlation between helmet "zone" impact and any severity of any neck damage. Never seen stats on that, not sure if there would be any. Hence, the call out.

Possibly on the assumption the neck wasn't broken due to whiplash I suppose (i.e. no helmet impact).

In terms of helmet impact, there could be a correlation between helmet "zone" impact and any severity of any neck damage. Never seen stats on that, not sure if there would be any. Hence, the call out.
Thanks for clearing that up. I've seen your original question, or forms of it, asked rhetorically in defense of not wearing a helmet (I don't think that was your reason for asking). The questioner usually has a hypothesis that helmets cause more injuries, particularly to the neck and spinal cord, than they prevent. My typical reply to those people is that in most cases, your head hitting the pavement would have probably killed you before you ever had the chance to realize you were paralyzed.

Possibly on the assumption the neck wasn't broken due to whiplash I suppose (i.e. no helmet impact).

In terms of helmet impact, there could be a correlation between helmet "zone" impact and any severity of any neck damage. Never seen stats on that, not sure if there would be any. Hence, the call out.
Thanks for clearing that up. I've seen your original question, or forms of it, asked rhetorically in defense of not wearing a helmet (I don't think that was your reason for asking). The questioner usually has a hypothesis that helmets cause more injuries, particularly to the neck and spinal cord, than they prevent. My typical reply to those people is that in most cases, your head hitting the pavement would have probably killed you before you ever had the chance to realize you were paralyzed.
lol ... yeah, no problem. I'm a helmet wearer. Just the thought of a head slam puts the lights out in my brain.

A digression: That said, it is amazing in fiction shows like "The Punisher" (Netflix) where characters routinely get their heads slammed with strong fists and various props that generally main characters "shake off". I am pretty sure if somebody slammed my pumpkin with a pipe, I think an eye would pop out (think Glenn in "The Walking Dead" - AMC),



let alone several whacks from the pipe. (by the way, that's alotta BBQ sauce)

It is too bad the neck is still generally vulnerable. We know professional racers have some defense using their upper back equipment aero-dynamic mods, but I can say locally I have very rarely seen that on civilian road riders.

[LongRanger_imp]

For neck and torso protection, I've started to wear a Helite Turtle inflatable vest. It claims to support the head and neck when deployed, plus in my case, it may give a bit more protection to the collarbone and chest. I figure it's better than nothing but hope to never need it.

[Cormanus]

Sensible though it may be to wear an inflatable vest, I can't imagine how much more uncomfortable it would be in the Australian summer heat.

[Houtman_imp]

I wear a Helite vest and you can wear it over a well ventilated jacket.
I rather sweat than bleed , showers take care of the sweat.
They have them in black but that one could hot, the green/yellow one is not too bad.

[KiowaEagle_imp]

I wear a Helite vest and you can wear it over a well ventilated jacket.
I rather sweat than bleed , showers take care of the sweat.
They have them in black but that one could hot, the green/yellow one is not too bad.

Doesn't that deploy with a tether? With my luck I'd forget to unhook it at some point before dismounting.

[Houtman_imp]

Yes , there is a tether but even if you forget to unhook it before getting of the bike it ill not deploy the cannister. After a very short time you will remember to unhook it , just like switching of the bike before getting of . You could even put a little red lint on the key to remind you of the tether.