check engine light stays on, on my 2017

[Houtman_imp]

A few days ago I did put the O2 sensor eliminators on my 2017 with less than good results , check engine light came on after about 50 miles.
yesterday I removed the eliminators (also from my 2014 ) and disconnected the batterie for 24 hours. Connected batterie but check engine light is still on , can I somehow get this light NOT to come on or is it a dealer solution with a special tester.
I am wondering if the 2017 (and perhaps also the 2014 ) are more sensitive to messing with the O2 sensor. I know many 2013 owners have one installed but are there any 2017 owners with O2 eliminators ? (or 2014 owners ) 2017 starts ok but did not have a change to ride it today.

[the Ferret]

Well that stinks. I personally don't much understand what drives guys to mess with modern Japanese fueling/ignition systems. They are such complicated and inter connected things worked out by very intelligent and educated engineers and for the most part work flawlessly as delivered from the factory.

Hope you get it sorted out Houtman.

[misterprofessionality]

this is one of the only reasons i was willing to put in a power commander. i was only willing to replace something that was meticulously engineered with something else that was meticulously engineered. Results were good.

Houtman, for my education, what sort of O2 eliminators did you put in? what's their purpose? other than eliminating the O2 sensors of course.

[Houtman_imp]

You are right Ferrett , I always say :you can not outsmart the Honda people and here I am !

this is one of the only reasons i was willing to put in a power commander. i was only willing to replace something that was meticulously engineered with something else that was meticulously engineered. Results were good.

Houtman, for my education, what sort of O2 eliminators did you put in? what's their purpose? other than eliminating the O2 sensors of course.

To be honest no real good reason as all my bikes were running good!
Bought the O2 eliminators from Redline Superbike to make them run a little better at very small throttle openings. I did feel an improvement on my 2013 but that one only has one O2 sensor and perhaps is less "fussy " Probably the main reason for all this is that I would like to have a 4 into 4 on my 2013 and thought I try to see how the bikes run without an O2 sensor. Some 4 into 4 systems have a bung for an O2 sensor.

[GoldOxide_imp]

The ultimate motive to use of oxygen sensors is to minimize environment harming emissions. The sensor feedback is continuously consumed by the vehicle computer to optimize air-fuel mixture at all loads, or at least typical loads. To spoof the computer with a faux oxygen sensor is probably not optimal for most living species, but may for awhile enhance performance, or solve an exhaust need for bling. Calibrating with an oxygen sensor is supposed to, by way of vehicle engineering, optimize power output for a specified exhaust system.

[Lord Popgun]

Houtman,

You can read the code without the HDS (dealer tester) or a Healtech tester (I have one) by having the ECU flash the fault code using the check engine light. Read this post and give it try: http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....#pid169834

First see what the code is and lets go from there. Do you have a shop manual? Where are you in NC?

[Houtman_imp]

Houtman,

You can read the code without the HDS (dealer tester) or a Healtech tester (I have one) by having the ECU flash the fault code using the check engine light. Read this post and give it try: http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....#pid169834

First see what the code is and lets go from there. Do you have a shop manual? Where are you in NC?

I have all the shop manuals for the CB 1100's and live in Asheville , Western NC . You are very welcome to visit me ! I will read the article this morning but I am not very good with electronics at all !
Read the article and I am quite certain that the O2 sensor issue is the course of the MIL light staying on. I probably have to warn 2017 owners to be careful before messing with the O2 sensor. Is there a financial reward for being the first one to find a problem and preventing other riders to make this mistake ???

[Lord Popgun]

Houtman,

Section 5 of the manual tells how to read the codes without a Honda system tool. It also tells how to reset the stored code. Disconnecting the battery will not reset codes (That is a note in the manual, btw).

To reset manually the manual shows using a tool called the SCS connector. It is just a jumper wire. You can use a paper clip or a wire, BUT you have to short the correct pins. Right at this moment I don’t remember which pins. However Powerdubs or Max or someone did post it. I’ll have to search for that. OK, its shown in the manual for the ‘13-14. Wiring is the same for the ‘17 (I have the PGM-FI diagram for the ‘17). You have to short the pins with Green wire to Brown wire. Green is a ground wire. ENSURE to short it to the Brown wire or bad things may happen to your ECU.

Just read the directions. The jumper has to be installed at a specific point in the procedure.

[LongRanger_imp]

Houtman, I have a Honda SCS service connector. P/N 070PZ-ZY30100. Happy to lend it to you if you promise to return it when you're done. It's just a jumper cable and cost about $25.

[Lord Popgun]

Dang LR, I just remembered I have a connector kit with pins. I need to just make my own.