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It's those bumps in the road that tell the tale. On the '14, the wheels simply deflect off of those bumps. Jarring, confidence sapping. On the '17, the wheels soak up those bumps, and the bike continues to track straight and true. That additional plushness doesn't only give a more comfortable ride, it also makes for greater confidence when you push things a bit. Instead of bumps to avoid, you look for apexes to attack.
Minus any bumps, and ridden slowly enough in a straight line, any suspension feels fine. See...Davidson, Harley. It's only once you begin to ask things of the boingy bits that real answers are given.
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(10-20-2019, 11:04 AM)VLJ_imp Wrote: It's those bumps in the road that tell the tale. On the '14, the wheels simply deflect off of those bumps. Jarring, confidence sapping. On the '17, the wheels soak up those bumps, and the bike continues to track straight and true. That additional plushness doesn't only give a more comfortable ride, it also makes for greater confidence when you push things a bit. Instead of bumps to avoid, you look for apexes to attack.
Minus any bumps, and ridden slowly enough in a straight line, any suspension feels fine. See...Davidson, Harley. It's only once you begin to ask things of the boingy bits that real answers are given.
For some, the jarring experience is excitement stirring. Never considered it confidence sapping.
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(10-20-2019, 11:04 AM)VLJ_imp Wrote: It's those bumps in the road that tell the tale. On the '14, the wheels simply deflect off of those bumps. Jarring, confidence sapping. On the '17, the wheels soak up those bumps, and the bike continues to track straight and true. That additional plushness doesn't only give a more comfortable ride, it also makes for greater confidence when you push things a bit. Instead of bumps to avoid, you look for apexes to attack.
Minus any bumps, and ridden slowly enough in a straight line, any suspension feels fine. See...Davidson, Harley. It's only once you begin to ask things of the boingy bits that real answers are given.
+1
When I had my BMW F800GT with electronically adjustable rear suspension damping, people would get on the forum and say, "The modes are all the same. Doesn't make any difference switching between them." When I would ask, turns out they were just switching modes while just riding in a straight line on smooth pavement and wondering why nothing perceptible occurred.
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(10-20-2019, 11:52 AM)Stichill_imp Wrote: (10-20-2019, 11:04 AM)VLJ_imp Wrote: It's those bumps in the road that tell the tale. On the '14, the wheels simply deflect off of those bumps. Jarring, confidence sapping. On the '17, the wheels soak up those bumps, and the bike continues to track straight and true. That additional plushness doesn't only give a more comfortable ride, it also makes for greater confidence when you push things a bit. Instead of bumps to avoid, you look for apexes to attack.
Minus any bumps, and ridden slowly enough in a straight line, any suspension feels fine. See...Davidson, Harley. It's only once you begin to ask things of the boingy bits that real answers are given.
+1
When I had my BMW F800GT with electronically adjustable rear suspension damping, people would get on the forum and say, "The modes are all the same. Doesn't make any difference switching between them." When I would ask, turns out they were just switching modes while just riding in a straight line on smooth pavement and wondering why nothing perceptible occurred.
Incredible some people would say that. That is some lazy ignorance. 
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I think my point was that you can spend a lot of money on suspension and unless you ride like a road racer over bumpy roads you might not get anything out of it. The two or 3 guys on a forum recommending these suspension changes as bike transforming never mention that. Most how to set up suspension articles, videos etc have the same issue as if everyone wants their bikes setup for road racing, while others just want a smooth compliant ride at normal riding speeds on normal roads.
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I'm not talking about road racing. I'm talking about twisty country roads riddled with bumps, ridden somewhat aggressively. The improvement in the suspension doesn't have to with any additional stiffness, either. Nope, it's the plushness, the compliance, which, in addition to allowing the bike to handle more competently, also makes for a more comfortable ride.
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(10-20-2019, 11:52 AM)Stichill_imp Wrote: (10-20-2019, 11:04 AM)VLJ_imp Wrote: It's those bumps in the road that tell the tale. On the '14, the wheels simply deflect off of those bumps. Jarring, confidence sapping. On the '17, the wheels soak up those bumps, and the bike continues to track straight and true. That additional plushness doesn't only give a more comfortable ride, it also makes for greater confidence when you push things a bit. Instead of bumps to avoid, you look for apexes to attack.
Minus any bumps, and ridden slowly enough in a straight line, any suspension feels fine. See...Davidson, Harley. It's only once you begin to ask things of the boingy bits that real answers are given.
+1
When I had my BMW F800GT with electronically adjustable rear suspension damping, people would get on the forum and say, "The modes are all the same. Doesn't make any difference switching between them." When I would ask, turns out they were just switching modes while just riding in a straight line on smooth pavement and wondering why nothing perceptible occurred.
+1
When I had my BMW F800GT with electronically adjustable rear suspension damping, people would get on the forum and say, "The modes are all the same. Doesn't make any difference switching between them." When I would ask, turns out they were just switching modes while just riding in a straight line on smooth pavement and wondering why nothing perceptible occurred.
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As an aside, I just used that picture for my background on my work computer. It's how I feel everyday working with the youth of today.
Back to regularly scheduled programming.
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Hi, is there any diff regarding the oil-radiator's dimensions? I wish to buy the Yoshimura radiator guard, but the fitting table agrees up to 2016 model for the EX and 2017 for the RS. Does that mean that the EX of 2017 has q different size? Thanks for the help.
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It appears all the years oil cooler are the same part number. It may be a clearance issue or just their fitting table is not correct.
Here is a nice place you can verify the numbers yourself: https://www.bike-parts-honda.com/honda-m...40/2/22337
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(09-06-2021, 11:47 PM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: It appears all the years oil cooler are the same part number. It may be a clearance issue or just their fitting table is not correct.
Here is a nice place you can verify the numbers yourself: https://www.bike-parts-honda.com/honda-m...40/2/22337
Cheers mate !
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