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Right, but you two are the definition of that very narrow, target demographic I described. So was I, as it turned out, despite being significantly younger than the majority of the people on this forum.
For most everyone else, however, as in the motorcycling public writ large, including those soothsayer online reviewers who tend to determine what gets sold and what doesn't, the CB1100 was deemed an insufficient Bang For Buck value.
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(03-01-2021, 08:23 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: I definitely didn't purchase the CB1100 for optimal power, weight and whatever. It simply called to me. It pulled on the heart 'n' soul, yet, performed and handled more than I needed.
Second this...tryin' to think what did draw me to the CB1100...and it was largely based on looks. I can't claim any nostalgia for a specific CB from days long ago. It was just that it looked like a bike should.
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(03-01-2021, 09:59 AM)pdedse_imp Wrote: (03-01-2021, 08:23 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: I definitely didn't purchase the CB1100 for optimal power, weight and whatever. It simply called to me. It pulled on the heart 'n' soul, yet, performed and handled more than I needed.
Second this...tryin' to think what did draw me to the CB1100...and it was largely based on looks. I can't claim any nostalgia for a specific CB from days long ago. It was just that it looked like a bike should.
Second this...tryin' to think what did draw me to the CB1100...and it was largely based on looks. I can't claim any nostalgia for a specific CB from days long ago. It was just that it looked like a bike should.
The same thing that sells Guzzi V7s, W800s, RE 650s, Bonnevilles, and Root beer colored Kawasaki 900's (and every Harley Davidson). There is plenty of market for retros but the pie is divided into lottsa pieces.
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The CB 1000 (called the BIG ONE ) was made from 1992 till 1996 , only sold in the USA in 1994 and 1995 (about 800 )
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Btw the Triumph Bonneville which has less performance than the CB 1100 and has been a main stay of Triumphs line since the early 2000's lists for $12,100 plus plus and I've never heard of a Triumph dealer that would discount one. The Bobber is over $13 grand.
People will spend their money for what they want regardless of how they rate on spec sheets.
Another I-4 that made 100 hp, listed for like $7k and never sold in big numbers was the Suzuki 1200 Bandit. (another really good bike btw)
I guess the point of my posts are there is no way to point at a single thing or things that made the CB sell the way it did in the US. Not performance, not weight, not horsepower, not fit and finish, not price. Who knows.
People are really fickle lol
Btw I havent heard an announcement but I just saw a video on Youtube that said it was introducing a 2021 CB 1100 RS. May have been a typo for all I know, but if true would make 12 years of continuous production for the CB
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Yep that was the one, but I saw no sign beside it verifying it's a 2021 ..could be a 2020?
On another note I didn't remember paying $12K for my 2013 so I looked it up. Retail for the non ABS was $9,999 (which I got) and $10,999 for the C ABS model
2013 Honda CB1100 ABS
Base Price: $9,999
Price as Tested: $10,999 (C-ABS brakes)
Warranty: 12 mos., unltd. miles
Website: powersports.honda.com
https://ridermagazine.com/2013/07/01/201...road-test/
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(03-01-2021, 12:49 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Yep that was the one, but I saw no sign beside it verifying it's a 2021 ..could be a 2020?
On another note I didn't remember paying $12K for my 2013 so I looked it up. Retail for the non ABS was $9,999 (which I got) and $10,999 for the C ABS model
2013 Honda CB1100 ABS
Base Price: $9,999
Price as Tested: $10,999 (C-ABS brakes)
Warranty: 12 mos., unltd. miles
Website: powersports.honda.com
https://ridermagazine.com/2013/07/01/201...road-test/
If the place card info is to be believed, then ...
... I think the year code is "H" or 2017. Maybe a new 2017 found by someone in 2021?
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(03-01-2021, 03:26 AM)Jfro5687_imp Wrote: With only a few mouse clicks you can easily find video’s of groups of young Japanese men on their modified CB’s meeting up, clearly having fun. Like now not years ago. Lots of metallic candy colour’s, different pipes, tanks, bars, seats etc. There must be a strong custom scene there. So maybe Honda achieved what they wanted after all on home ground and as others have spotted, maybe success elsewhere in the world was not that important? That picture above is just off a quick Google search but IMO looks terrific. If someone on the forum owns this BTW all I can say is ‘wow’.
Wow... terrific looking bike.
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Every market will have its foibles. From here the USA appears completely power mad, cars are huge, engines are huge, petrol compared to the price here is dirt cheap, it’s roughly £5.50 a gallon here which I think is something like $7.60 US. I know I know it cannot be true of everyone but it’s so easy to find YouTube vids of let’s call them ‘Busa boys’ doing ‘smack downs’. 190 mph street races against heavily modded H2’s, ZX14R’s and BMW1000R’s in T shirts and flip flops. No gloves of course. Splitting lanes, wheelies, stunts, crashing sometimes. I don’t understand how they get away with it? At the other extreme every Harley seems to have to leave the dealership modded out with the biggest engines known to man or it’s rubbish. Like they aren’t big enough anyway?It’s alien to me.
So maybe, in Japan, at their HQ and Worldwide marketing dept they reach a similar conclusion and think well, shame but it’s the wrong market for the CB, so pull the plug.
The retro/ heritage thing is fickle. Let’s take the Suzuki Katana make over released a couple of years ago. Clearly looks wise based on the 1980’s air cooled model but now with a water cooled 145 bhp engine and egg cup sized petrol tank. I have not ridden one but saw one in a showroom. Very very quick bike. Can’t give them away. Another one the Z900RS Cafe. I like how it looks a lot but I don’t think that did well, (the unfaired one did) dealers were still trying to get rid of 0 mile 2018 bikes last Christmas at massive discounts. I even for a brief time wondered if I could scrape enough together to bag one. When Ferret highlights the overall production run of 10 years, despite everything, it’s pretty impressive really.
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