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Basic question, about to purchase 2013 CB1100 non-abs
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I found this bike on CL for 5800 which I feel is good for about 8k miles. Are there some key things to look for?

I am looking to make this my main bike for about the next several years if possible and since I live in California I've been making this possible for myself with the exception of my last bike the Triumph Street triple RS I bought new which has 2 motors go out under warranty, I am lemon-lawing it. Meanwhile since the dealership has no loaner program I was forced to buy some other bike for now to get me around. I got a 88' Hawk GT for 500 w/ 59k miles(in the last 4 months it has hit about 63k which is low for me due to the small gas tank and no gas gauge have me limited).

Would it be worth it for me to commute year-round on the CB1100 through all sorts of weather without ABS or is it not too big of an issue? Is it possible to add ABS later on in case I feel it is important? Am I stressing too much on a small subject?

I'm finding it difficult to find a fitting tire that does amazing in water, long life/dual compound, do you guys have any suggestions? I work 7 days a week so if it is a day in the year no matter how hard it rains here, I'm on my bike however I've had a lot of miles in the rain and am a lot more used to it than what I used to be.
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G'day and welcome to the forum AsHperson. Unless you're really set on ABS, I think you'll find the non ABS bike OK. I've not heard of anyone adding it later. There may be issues with the electronics should you try to do so. One of our members learned in electronic matters may well enlighten you.

Tyres for this bike are a bit of a problem due to the 18" wheels. However, many of us have been very happy using Michelin PR3s. There's a 120 for the front and a 160 for the rear which, while slightly larger then stock fit and are the same diameter. Pirelli's Angel GT has a stock size front and a 160/70 rear which other members have used and like. I've been using the Bridgestone T31s of late and they seems fine in the wet. However, if I could still the PR3s in Australia I'd probably revert to them. Aside from being OK in the wet, they last for a long time.
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(05-28-2019, 11:05 AM)AsHperson_imp Wrote: I found this bike on CL for 5800 which I feel is good for about 8k miles. Are there some key things to look for?

I am looking to make this my main bike for about the next several years if possible and since I live in California I've been making this possible for myself with the exception of my last bike the Triumph Street triple RS I bought new which has 2 motors go out under warranty, I am lemon-lawing it. Meanwhile since the dealership has no loaner program I was forced to buy some other bike for now to get me around. I got a 88' Hawk GT for 500 w/ 59k miles(in the last 4 months it has hit about 63k which is low for me due to the small gas tank and no gas gauge have me limited).

Would it be worth it for me to commute year-round on the CB1100 through all sorts of weather without ABS or is it not too big of an issue? Is it possible to add ABS later on in case I feel it is important? Am I stressing too much on a small subject?

I'm finding it difficult to find a fitting tire that does amazing in water, long life/dual compound, do you guys have any suggestions? I work 7 days a week so if it is a day in the year no matter how hard it rains here, I'm on my bike however I've had a lot of miles in the rain and am a lot more used to it than what I used to be.

I used to commute from SJ to Pleasant Hill every day in all weather conditions on my '13 non ABS and I had no issues with it. It was just about 115 miles every day for me and I was getting between 45 and 52 mpg with it. Once I went over 70 for long stretches, that was when the mileage started to drop a bit.
The bike is very reliable and with the stock BT54 tires on that commute I got over 9000 miles out of the front tire, and over 15,000 on the rear. There was tread left on both tires when I replaced them, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
The one thing that I STRONGLY suggest is a windscreen of some sort. Without one I was getting fatigued on my 55 minute commutes.
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I'd say adding ABS to a non-ABS bike (or car, for that matter) is not worth the effort: it's cheaper/easier just to sold the non-ABS vehicle to get one with it.

Wether you need ABS or not... well, I am a fan of ABS: it gives me the confidence that no matter how hard I brake the front tyre will stay put. But I had a non-ABS bike before the CB with no issues.

If I was constantly commuting in the rain, I'd much preffer an ABS bike.
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(05-28-2019, 11:05 AM)AsHperson_imp Wrote: I found this bike on CL for 5800 which I feel is good for about 8k miles. Are there some key things to look for?

I am looking to make this my main bike for about the next several years if possible and since I live in California I've been making this possible for myself with the exception of my last bike the Triumph Street triple RS I bought new which has 2 motors go out under warranty, I am lemon-lawing it. Meanwhile since the dealership has no loaner program I was forced to buy some other bike for now to get me around. I got a 88' Hawk GT for 500 w/ 59k miles(in the last 4 months it has hit about 63k which is low for me due to the small gas tank and no gas gauge have me limited).

Would it be worth it for me to commute year-round on the CB1100 through all sorts of weather without ABS or is it not too big of an issue? Is it possible to add ABS later on in case I feel it is important? Am I stressing too much on a small subject?

I'm finding it difficult to find a fitting tire that does amazing in water, long life/dual compound, do you guys have any suggestions? I work 7 days a week so if it is a day in the year no matter how hard it rains here, I'm on my bike however I've had a lot of miles in the rain and am a lot more used to it than what I used to be.

Maybe the bike market in California is a lot different than where I live Western Pa. but $5800 is very pricey for that bike. That said, you will love the CB1100 if/when you get one...
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#6
Welcome Ash!
Adding ABS would cost you a small fortune. At minimum you'd need an ABS modulator, new calipers, hoses, new wiring harness, sensor ring and sensor for front wheel. And all those parts cost. Buy a bike with ABS if you can't live without it.
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I just bought a ‘13 non-abs in California with under 2k miles for much less than what you’re considering. Perhaps holding out for an abs bike in your price range might be a consideration. I waited about a month before my bike came along from the time I started looking for one.
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$5800? Wow. That's a $4000 bike around here (and a great motorcycle at that)!
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(05-28-2019, 05:49 PM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: G'day and welcome to the forum AsHperson. Unless you're really set on ABS, I think you'll find the non ABS bike OK. I've not heard of anyone adding it later. There may be issues with the electronics should you try to do so. One of our members learned in electronic matters may well enlighten you.

Tyres for this bike are a bit of a problem due to the 18" wheels. However, many of us have been very happy using Michelin PR3s. There's a 120 for the front and a 160 for the rear which, while slightly larger then stock fit and are the same diameter. Pirelli's Angel GT has a stock size front and a 160/70 rear which other members have used and like. I've been using the Bridgestone T31s of late and they seems fine in the wet. However, if I could still the PR3s in Australia I'd probably revert to them. Aside from being OK in the wet, they last for a long time.
Thanks for the welcome dude! As far as the abs goes I'm not too concerned since I can manage perfectly well with good tires. I haven't been able to find the PR5, 4 or 3 have an 18" in the rear. I work at CG so I get some good discounts and have access to multiple distributors. I haven't considered the T31 because of the 160 but now I know it will work I will greatly consider them as my next. I don't plan on going Angel GT due to having the GT 2 on my Hawk GT and it has wobbly handling on the rain grooves of the road which annoys me to no end however I will live with until the tread finally leaves the tire. It has had good wet performance however there isn't much power behind my Hawk GT to make rain all that dangerous to begin with.
I had the Road 5 on my Street Triple RS and only got to use it for about 5 months until the bike turned into a lemon and triumph may finally come around off their lazy butt to buy the bike off me(long story short, original and first replacement motor failed me and they refused to replace it again since they are about to settle and I'm getting impatient.)
(05-28-2019, 06:20 PM)Randy B_imp Wrote:
(05-28-2019, 11:05 AM)AsHperson_imp Wrote: I found this bike on CL for 5800 which I feel is good for about 8k miles. Are there some key things to look for?

I am looking to make this my main bike for about the next several years if possible and since I live in California I've been making this possible for myself with the exception of my last bike the Triumph Street triple RS I bought new which has 2 motors go out under warranty, I am lemon-lawing it. Meanwhile since the dealership has no loaner program I was forced to buy some other bike for now to get me around. I got a 88' Hawk GT for 500 w/ 59k miles(in the last 4 months it has hit about 63k which is low for me due to the small gas tank and no gas gauge have me limited).

Would it be worth it for me to commute year-round on the CB1100 through all sorts of weather without ABS or is it not too big of an issue? Is it possible to add ABS later on in case I feel it is important? Am I stressing too much on a small subject?

I'm finding it difficult to find a fitting tire that does amazing in water, long life/dual compound, do you guys have any suggestions? I work 7 days a week so if it is a day in the year no matter how hard it rains here, I'm on my bike however I've had a lot of miles in the rain and am a lot more used to it than what I used to be.

I used to commute from SJ to Pleasant Hill every day in all weather conditions on my '13 non ABS and I had no issues with it. It was just about 115 miles every day for me and I was getting between 45 and 52 mpg with it. Once I went over 70 for long stretches, that was when the mileage started to drop a bit.
The bike is very reliable and with the stock BT54 tires on that commute I got over 9000 miles out of the front tire, and over 15,000 on the rear. There was tread left on both tires when I replaced them, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
The one thing that I STRONGLY suggest is a windscreen of some sort. Without one I was getting fatigued on my 55 minute commutes.

I used to commute from SJ to Pleasant Hill every day in all weather conditions on my '13 non ABS and I had no issues with it. It was just about 115 miles every day for me and I was getting between 45 and 52 mpg with it. Once I went over 70 for long stretches, that was when the mileage started to drop a bit.
The bike is very reliable and with the stock BT54 tires on that commute I got over 9000 miles out of the front tire, and over 15,000 on the rear. There was tread left on both tires when I replaced them, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
The one thing that I STRONGLY suggest is a windscreen of some sort. Without one I was getting fatigued on my 55 minute commutes.
That's awesome and makes me feel relieved about the commute since I don't go as far but I hit the northbound mountain view traffic everyday from sj which is pretty terrible. Those BT45 tires look pretty good tbh and I may stick with them but I'll probably explore around and see what I feel is the best one after another. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll add a puig windscreen to my list to buy for the bike. First to buy are crash bars then windscreen then yoshi slip-on then adaptive headlight! I know very well how much a proper windscreen matters I was just a bit worried with how dorky it may look since I haven't seen it on the bike before.
(05-28-2019, 07:02 PM)jtopiso_imp Wrote: I'd say adding ABS to a non-ABS bike (or car, for that matter) is not worth the effort: it's cheaper/easier just to sold the non-ABS vehicle to get one with it.

Wether you need ABS or not... well, I am a fan of ABS: it gives me the confidence that no matter how hard I brake the front tyre will stay put. But I had a non-ABS bike before the CB with no issues.

If I was constantly commuting in the rain, I'd much preffer an ABS bike.

Thanks for the input, I think I'll try to stick with the non-abs for several years and if it is cost effective at the time and I have the money aside to trade up then I will!
(05-28-2019, 08:31 PM)Blockhead_imp Wrote:
(05-28-2019, 11:05 AM)AsHperson_imp Wrote: I found this bike on CL for 5800 which I feel is good for about 8k miles. Are there some key things to look for?

I am looking to make this my main bike for about the next several years if possible and since I live in California I've been making this possible for myself with the exception of my last bike the Triumph Street triple RS I bought new which has 2 motors go out under warranty, I am lemon-lawing it. Meanwhile since the dealership has no loaner program I was forced to buy some other bike for now to get me around. I got a 88' Hawk GT for 500 w/ 59k miles(in the last 4 months it has hit about 63k which is low for me due to the small gas tank and no gas gauge have me limited).

Would it be worth it for me to commute year-round on the CB1100 through all sorts of weather without ABS or is it not too big of an issue? Is it possible to add ABS later on in case I feel it is important? Am I stressing too much on a small subject?

I'm finding it difficult to find a fitting tire that does amazing in water, long life/dual compound, do you guys have any suggestions? I work 7 days a week so if it is a day in the year no matter how hard it rains here, I'm on my bike however I've had a lot of miles in the rain and am a lot more used to it than what I used to be.

Maybe the bike market in California is a lot different than where I live Western Pa. but $5800 is very pricey for that bike. That said, you will love the CB1100 if/when you get one...

Maybe the bike market in California is a lot different than where I live Western Pa. but $5800 is very pricey for that bike. That said, you will love the CB1100 if/when you get one...
I find myself in a position to get a new bike where I am currently stuck and cramped on my Hawk GT, feeling like it has such little power, making the neutral sensor light up is a major pain sometime to get it started back up after short breaks. This is the only CB1100 I've ever seen on the market or anything japanese in that kinda of category(excluding xsr700/900). I haven't seen anything cheaper even though I'd like it cheaper and I don't have much patience going on the Hawk everyday. I've looked around all somewhat close dealerships used inventory as well too with no luck.
(05-28-2019, 10:09 PM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: Welcome Ash!
Adding ABS would cost you a small fortune. At minimum you'd need an ABS modulator, new calipers, hoses, new wiring harness, sensor ring and sensor for front wheel. And all those parts cost. Buy a bike with ABS if you can't live without it.

Called up a dealer yesterday asking about this and got the same answer, I'm getting over having abs anyways too.
(05-28-2019, 11:10 PM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: I just bought a ‘13 non-abs in California with under 2k miles for much less than what you’re considering. Perhaps holding out for an abs bike in your price range might be a consideration. I waited about a month before my bike came along from the time I started looking for one.

I've gone a bit far into the deal anyways, I wish I had known before and I had waited a little longer. I'd feel terrible should I back out of it at this point. Thanks for letting me know should I convince someone else to get this bike I'll pass this on.
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This is my '13. I have changed a few things and added a few things.

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